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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-03-25</startdate>
	<location>LUSIKISIKI</location>
	<day>2 LUSIKISIKI</day>
	<names>KHINTANA MBEKWA</names>
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			<speaker>KHINTANA MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
		</line>
		<line number="2">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>How are you related to Sibunu?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="3">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>My grandmother.  I have come to talk about Mbekwa.</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>He also was one of the victims of the Nonqulana incident at Bizana.  Is that so?</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="6">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>What happened?  Was he detained?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>Yes he was detained.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="8">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>Where?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>A lot of places, Bizana, Lusikisiki.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="10">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>When was he released?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>He was detained for two years, released in the third year.</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>How was he health wise?</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>He was ill of health.  He would tell us how he was ill treated.  He said that they were beaten up all the time.  They were accused of not respecting the Government.  He was very thin when he was released.  Blind as well.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>And his arm?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>He said that he had been hit with the back of a gun and he could not use his right arm, therefore his health just deteriorated.  And it deteriorated until such time that he died.  He could not work even on his plantations, because he had no strength.</text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>And his cattle, his livestock?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>The people who worked together with the Government they destroyed his livestock.  They poisoned his cattle.</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>What is your request to the Commission?</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>I request that the Commission give me a bit of money so that I can solve problems that emanated from this incident.</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>You also requested that your roads be fixed up.  I have got a list of requests here.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="21">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>Yes those are my requests.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="22">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>What is your clan name?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="23">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>Gadebe.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="24">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>You have also requested that we build a tombstone.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="25">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>Yes it would be good, because some of my people died.  I could request that as well.</text>
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		<line number="26">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>Anything else?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="27">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>No.   Thank you.  Maybe I will give the other a chance.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="28">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Tlobi.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="29">
			<speaker>MR MBEKWA</speaker>
			<text>You are a very kind man.</text>
		</line>
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