hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1997-03-25 LUSIKISIKI 2 LUSIKISIKI SIWEWE MAMTABAS NGAKANANI https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55573&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/lusiki/ngakanan.htm CHAIRPERSON We now call Penelope Madikizela to come forward, is she here? Siwewe Mamtabasa Ngakanani and Poyinda Nagi. MS NGAKANANI (sworn states) MS MAYA Mr Ngakanani I would like to start with you. Can you hear me? MS NGAKANANI I can hear you. MS MAYA According to your statement madam, you are going to tell us the story about your father, Nohlaza Ngakanani Jakada. MS NGAKANANI Yes that is correct? MS MAYA He was one of the people who were members of Congo at the time, but he was tortured or ill-treated in 1971. According to your statement he was arrested in 1971 and he was ill-treated by the police in Kambati. Can you please tell us how his condition was when he was released? MS NGAKANANI They cut his throat. MS MAYA When you asked him what happened, what did he say? MS NGAKANANI He said that the boers did this to him and they said he must not tell. He said that the boers wanted the truth from him. MS MAYA Yes. MS NGAKANANI And they cut his throat with a knife. MS MAYA Yes. What happened. MS NGAKANANI He fell down. He became unconscious. After that he woke up and his health was not well after that. MS MAYA Besides this cutting of his throat what else? MS NGAKANANI He was beaten up and after that his health was so bad. MS MAYA How long did he stay in prison? MS NGAKANANI He stayed for six years. He stayed in prison for two years. He came back. He stayed a year and he died. MS MAYA Did he appear in front of a Magistrate for a court case. MS NGAKANANI I do not know for I was in my own home at that time. MS MAYA He has passed away? MS NGAKANANI Yes, he has passed away. MS MAYA He died after how long? MS NGAKANANI He stayed for three years and he was injured all the time. He was coughing blood and he died. MS MAYA Madam do you have any requests to put forward to this Commission? MS NGAKANANI Yes, I do. MS MAYA What are your requests madam? MS NGAKANANI My request is that if it is possible I would like to be helped to support my children. MS MAYA How old are your children? MS NGAKANANI I am his eldest daughter and he has grand children who need to be supported. MS MAYA Is there any other thing that you want to add madam to what you have already said? MS NGAKANANI Yes, I can say that there is something, but I do not see my grand child, because if he was here he would come here and testify, because he mentioned that he wanted a tombstone. MS MAYA Thank you madam.