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	<systype>hrvtrans</systype>
	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-03-25</startdate>
	<location>LUSIKISIKI</location>
	<day>2 LUSIKISIKI</day>
	<names>CETYIWE ELEANOR PIKA</names>
							<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55581&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/lusiki/pika.htm</originalhtml>
		<lines count="22">
		<line number="1">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>We will proceed to the lady next to Mr Jali.  Your full names madam please.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="2">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>My name is Eleanor Pika.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="3">
			<speaker>CETYIWE ELEANOR PIKA</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
		</line>
		<line number="4">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Who are you going to talk about?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>I am going to talk about my husband, April Pika.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="6">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Will you briefly tell us what happened to your husband?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>The boers came, took him, beat him up, kicked him, threw him on the floor.   They threw him into a police van and took him to town.   He was detained for two days in town and then he came back.  He was terribly injured.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="8">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Exactly how was he injured?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>He got injured when they were beating him up.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="10">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>According to your statement Mrs Pika you say that they used the back of the gun to beat him up.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>You say that they were using guns, they would kick him with their boots, slap him on the face, throw him on the floor.  That ill-treatment caused his illness.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="12">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> On his release he was never able to do anything constructive again until he passed away.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="13">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Which year was it?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>If I am not mistaken he passed away in 1985, according to the documents here.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="15">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You speak about a child with epileptic fits.  Whose child is that?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="16">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>It is my child.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="17">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Do you remember what you said about this child?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>I remember you spoke about this child.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="19">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Could you repeat please.  What did you say about the child.   According to your statement you said your child should be given a sickness grant.  Is there something else you would like to say, madam?  Maybe you have something to say.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="20">
			<speaker>MS PIKA</speaker>
			<text>No.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="21">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you madam.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="22">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
	</lines>
</hearing>