hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1997-04-08 MESSINA 1 PHEULE C MOLEYA 4013 https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55605&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/messina/mesmoley.htm DR RANDERA Miss Moleya, good afternoon. MS MOLEYA Good afternoon. DR RANDERA Thank you for coming. Can you please introduce the gentleman who is with you? MS MOLEYA DR RANDERA Good afternoon to you, Pastor. Miss Moleya will you please stand to take the oath. Joyce! MS MOLEYA (sworn states) DR RANDERA Mr Manthata! MR MANTHATA Thank you. I hope you are relaxed, you are at home. Pheule, can you please tell us about the killing of Wilson? MS MOLEYA n arriving there I found that he was shot dead. For me to talk to him was difficult because he was unable to talk and then the Principal, Mr Mabela took us to the hospital. There at the hospital my mother arrived and they told us they were, they were waiting for the doctor. Then Doctor van Zyl arrived and Doctor van Zyl did not tell us anything but he just ordered us to take him to the mortuary. Then the workers there took him to the mortuary. After the funeral we took it as if that was the end of the story but after that we find the letters coming that we, informing us that we are needed in court. There in court, my mother was not allowed to enter the court to hear the case of her son. Subsequent to that the case was remanded to June. That was in 1991. In 1991 again the, my mother was barred from entering. The case, well I might not say the, the right name. Mr Ntai was responsible for the case. After that we were told that all the people involved with the victims were seen and we would like to address this to the mother that we are not going to show you who the kill, who killed the son. We are still taking these documents to Pretoria for further investigation on who killed him, then we will contact you. Even up to to-day we are still waiting for the response. Unfortunately, my mother died in 1995 and we buried my mother before she could actually know how her son died and who killed him. MR MANTHATA MS MOLEYA MR MANTHATA And before the mother died, she had not told Ntai that there would be a father who could take over the responsibility of, of the death of the son? About the case concerning the son? MS MOLEYA MR MANTHATA When you heard about the death of Wilson and you jumped up, who did you meet? Who could have told you about the shooting or the shot that killed Wilson? MS MOLEYA Well nobody really contacted us. We just expected that the Pretorian people would be investigating documents and after that we will be able to know who killed Wilson. MR MANTHATA Would you say Wilson was in the march at the time? MS MOLEYA MR MANTHATA MS MOLEYA I definitely very sure of that. MR MANTHATA And, okay, you say he was buried by the community of Messina. MS MOLEYA It is true. MR MANTHATA At that time, at which school was, was Wilson? MS MOLEYA Messina High School. MR MANTHATA What did the school itself do? MS MOLEYA There was nothing that the school did. They just came to share some words of condolences and like, nothing else. MR MANTHATA In fact what I meant to say was, did the student leadership at the time claim to know Wilson and perhaps his role in the student politics? MS MOLEYA There was not even a single incident related to that. MR MANTHATA So far, when last were you in contact with Ntai about the death of, of Wilson? MS MOLEYA MR MANTHATA If we suggest that you get in touch with Ntai and have the whole case reviewed. Would it be a difficult thing to do? MS MOLEYA MR MANTHATA Thank you. DR RANDERA Thank you, Mr Manthata. Miss Seroke! Dr Ally. DR ALLY: MS MOLEYA You mean, the shooting? It was 10 March 1990 on a Saturday. DR RANDERA Can you just describe to us or tell us what actually happened after the death of Wilson. You talked about the community taking responsibility for the funeral. Were there other demands that were also made by the community after that? MS MOLEYA DR RANDERA I have no further questions. Is there anything else you wish to add? MS MOLEYA Well, I cannot add anything so far. Thank you. DR RANDERA