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	<type>1 N GAVU, HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1996-08-27</startdate>
	<location>UITENHAGE</location>
	<day>2</day>
	<names>NOMANGESI SYLVIA GAVU</names>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>We are going to call our next witness.  The next one is Nomangesi Sylvia Gavu.  Ms Maya is going to lead you Nomangesi.</text>
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			<speaker>NOMANGESI SYLVIA GAVU</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Thank you very much Mr Chairperson.  I greet you Nomangesi.  According to your statement you are going to talk about your brother,  Mzwabantu Gavu, who was also shot on this particular day.</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> We noticed that you said as a family at home you heard the gunshots outside.  You went out to see what was happening, is that correct?</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, that is correct.</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>When you went out what was is that you saw?</text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>I went down the Maduna Street.  There were people lying next to Station 16.  The police didn&#039;t allow us to get closer to see what was happening.  We were next to the hall.  The ambulances were there and they were transporting people.</text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>When did you discover that your brother was also injured?</text>
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		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>On that particular day, the others who went with</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>UITENHAGE HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>2 N GAVU</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>him came back, but he never came back.  My other sister by the name of Nomsola went with that particular car to search for the people who did not come back.</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>How old was Gugulethu?</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>He was 18 years old.</text>
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		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Was he attending school?</text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>No, he was not at school.</text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>When you found him in that mortuary in Port Elizabeth, what happened to you, were you also called to the Jubilee Hotel?</text>
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			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, my mother went to the Jubilee hotel.</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Was there any money that you received on that particular day?</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, my mother received an amount of money which was about R9 000.</text>
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		<line number="21">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Is there anything that you would like to add concerning this matter?</text>
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		<line number="22">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, there is something else that I would like to say.</text>
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		<line number="23">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Can you go on.</text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>As a family at home, what affected us most is the fact that during his burial, this actually affected my mother mostly because on that particular day, we last saw him on that day when the people were marching going to the grave yard,  we never got a chance to see him while the families of people were being shown to the bodies.</text>
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		<line number="25">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Is there any requests that you would like to tell us?</text>
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		<line number="26">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, as victims who were killed because of our brother being the residents of Langa,  I request that the Commission must do something which is going to be a</text>
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		<line number="27">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>UITENHAGE HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE</text>
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		<line number="28">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>3 N GAVU</text>
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		<line number="29">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>memorial.  Something that if we look at it, this is going to remind us of the victims who were killed.  For instance we don&#039;t have proper facilities, things like halls and fields, soccer fields or whatever, sports ground.</text>
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		<line number="30">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>You said something about your mother&#039;s health.  how is your mother&#039;s health?</text>
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			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>Since after that, my mother is not well.  She is suffering from a stroke.  I am here on behalf of my mother now.</text>
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		<line number="32">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Is there any treatment, or medication that your mother is getting?</text>
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		<line number="33">
			<speaker>MS GAVU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, she is getting treatment from the hospital.</text>
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		<line number="34">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Thank you, I am going to hand over to the commissioner, maybe he has got some questions.</text>
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		<line number="35">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.</text>
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