hrvtrans 1 T NOKIE, HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1996-08-27 UITENHAGE 2 TINA BABSIE NOKIE https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=56024&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/uiten/nokie.htm CHAIRPERSON We will now call on Ms Tina Babsie Nokie. TINA BABSIE NOKIE (sworn states) CHAIRPERSON I understand that you are going to be giving your evidence in Afrikaans so I would like to say to you that my Afrikaans isn't all that good. According to the statement you were one of the persons who was on your way to the funeral on the 21 of March 1985, is that correct? MS NOKIE Yes. CHAIRPERSON Will you please give the Commission a very brief explanation of what happened and of how you were injured. MS NOKIE We were on our way to the graveyard. We went down Maduna Road and there was a Hippo following us. We went past Mittles shop down 16th Avenue and we stood there singing. There was a hippo in front of us and behind us and there was also a Rastafarian that was in front who was telling us the route that we were going to take to the graveyard and the hippo was in front. While standing there they started shooting at us. Thereafter we were lying on UITENHAGE HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE 2 T NOKIE the ground. Having being shot, I was also injured and I was lying on the ground. CHAIRPERSON Could you please tell the Commission about the nature of your injury? MS NOKIE They struck me four times in my back, one on my upper right arm, one on my upper left arm. I was lying there. They came to place stones next to me. When the ambulance arrived, they picked us up and took us to the hospital. CHAIRPERSON Were you in hospital for 2 months, at Uitenhage Provincial Hospital? MS NOKIE Yes, I was at the Provincial Hospital. CHAIRPERSON Is there any particular doctor that is currently treating you from time to time for the treatment? MS NOKIE Do you mean at the moment? CHAIRPERSON Yes. MS NOKIE No, I am not under any doctor at the moment. CHAIRPERSON Do you have any complaints? MS NOKIE Yes. CHAIRPERSON What is your complaint? MS NOKIE My complaint is that I am battling. I have a house, I don't have any income, I cannot work for myself, I cannot do anything for myself and I am at hospital at least every month. I have a bullet in my stomach, and every month my stomach swells up and I have to be admitted into hospital. CHAIRPERSON The bullet that you refer to in your stomach, what did the doctors say about that? Why have they not been able to remove it? MS NOKIE The last time they said to me that they would remove it, but then they didn't say anything about it UITENHAGE HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE 3 T NOKIE thereafter. CHAIRPERSON When was this? Is there anything else that you would like to tell the Commission? MS NOKIE Yes. CHAIRPERSON What is that? MS NOKIE I am battling, I don't have any income. I have a child who is at school and I don't have any money to care for my child and to buy my child a uniform. We are hungry at home, I don't have any money. They don't want to give me a grant and they keep returning my application form. CHAIRPERSON Did you receive a State pension at any stage? MS NOKIE I applied the first time. CHAIRPERSON What was the result thereof? MS NOKIE They sent the papers back to me saying that I should go and work, saying that I am fit to go and work. CHAIRPERSON What did they say about the doctors opinion in the papers, did the doctors declare you unfit to work? MS NOKIE Yes the papers came back saying that I am fit to work. CHAIRPERSON Is that all that you would like to say to the Commission today in connection with this matter? MS NOKIE I would like to ask the Commission if it cannot be of assistance to me. I don't have any income, I've got a child who is still at school. Nobody is working and I am unable to work because I am sick and I can't do much for myself. CHAIRPERSON The other people who gave evidence, referred to the Jubilee Hotel, saying that they were called there, were you also called? MS NOKIE Yes. CHAIRPERSON What happened there? UITENHAGE HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE 4 T NOKIE MS NOKIE We were called, and they compensated us. CHAIRPERSON Were you also compensated? MS NOKIE Yes, I was given R29 000. CHAIRPERSON Is there anything else you would like to say to this Commission? Is that all you would like to say to the Commission? MS NOKIE Yes. CHAIRPERSON Thank you very much Ms Nokie.