hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION HEARINGS 1996-10-15 WINELANDS 2 CT/00261 VUYO PATRICK DINWA NOMZWAKAZI KONJWAYO SHOOTING https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=56122&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/wineland/ct00261.htm MS GOBODO DR ORR Before we start can we just check that the headphones and the translation equipment are working for both witnesses, please. Is the equipment working? Testing - testing is there anything coming through? UNKNOWN Can the victim hear the interpreter - can the victim hear the interpreter - can the victim hear the interpreter - can the victim hear the interpreter? DR ORR MS KONJWAYO Yes, I can hear you. DR ORR MS KONJWAYO Yes. DR ORR Can I ask both of you to stand to take the oath please. NOMZWAKAZI ROSY KONJWAYO Duly sworn states VUYO PATRICK DINWA Duly sworn states DR ORR MS GOBODO MS KONJWAYO MS GOBODO Could you come closer to the microphone. Move your chair forward pleas, now how do you feel. MS KONJWAYO I feel quite happy now that we have this opportunity to vent out our grievances. MS GOBODO You are going to talk about Vuyo sitting next to you? MS KONJWAYO Yes. MS GOBODO Could you give us a picture of what was happening on this particular day when Vuyo was shot, what was happening? MS KONJWAYO Then I saw a policeman, I decided to went - to go back home. Whilst lying there I heard screams and people calling my name saying that my son had been shot. So I stood up and I went there and I found him lying there at the door. I ran and I phoned for the ambulance. It took time to come so I decided to take my neighbours car, drove to hospital and at the hospital we were told that we had to go to the Red Cross Hospital. And we did exactly that, then the doctor attended him. He called me and told me that he had been shot in the intestines but the bullet was - he had been shot in the stomach and the bullet had pierced through into the intestine and he had to have an operation. On Monday morning I went back home and I went to the Mbekweni Police Station to lay a charge there. When I got there the police said I should go back and come back later. I decided to go to the Police Station in town to lay a charge. When I got there they wrote down the statement - wrote everything down and asked me to go back home. MS GOBODO I just wanted to find out when you heard the shooting you decided to go and look for Vuyo. This really strikes me because at the time the people used to think about their children and they would consider whether they would find their children still alive or not. Now I would like you to refer to the case once more and tell us exactly what did they mean when they said they were through with the case, how did it happen that they did not call you to Court? MS KONJWAYO MS GOBODO What Court was that which told you that they - the Court was over? MS KONJWAYO It was here in Paarl. MS GOBODO MS KONJWAYO Yes, I did phone for the ambulance but it took time to come so I talked to my neighbour and we took Vuyo in a van to - to the hospital. And then we were later transferred to the Red Cross Hospital. MS GOBODO Our investigators could not get any information about this case but we are still investigating. We did hear that some of the things that happened in the location were not on record or they would say there would be [indistinct] the Riot Squad which was based in the - in town. So our investigators are going to continue to investigate to find out who actually shot Vuyo. I therefore want to give you this opportunity to express your wishes and then hand over to Vuyo. What are your wishes to this Commission? MS KONJWAYO MS GOBODO Vuyo could you take the other headphone please. Thank you, can you hear me? How old were you when this incident occurred? MR DINWA I was 13 years old. MS GOBODO Could you tell us what was happening on that day, how did it happen that you got injured? MR DINWA MS GOBODO MR DINWA MS GOBODO CHAIRPERSON