hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION HEARINGS 1996-06-26 WORCESTER 3 CT/07701 ANNALENE ABRAHAMS ANNALENE ABRAHAMS SHOT BY POLICE https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=56178&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/worcest/ct07701.htm DR ORR ME ABRAHAMS Familielid. DR ORR Baie dankie dat u ook saamgekom het om ondersteuning te gee. Me Abrahams kan ek u vra om te staan om die eed af te lewer. ANNALENE MILDRED ABRAHAMS verklaar onder eed DR ORR Baie dankie - me Mary Burton sal nou saam met jou praat. MS BURTON Hello Ms Abrahams. MS ABRAHAMS Hello. MS BURTON ME ABRAHAMS En ons het net gesien die traangas kom deur die vensters en die geskietery buitekant, toe die mense begin te oormekaar val en hulle het begin te skreeu en begin te raas en ons het begin hardloop en ek het gehardloop ek het daar na die sy saal toe gehardloop en ek het weer teruggehardloop. Toe ek daar by die sy saal kom, toe sien ek net twee polisiemanne van buite staan en hulle skiet daar op - op ons wat nou daar deurgehardloop het. MS BURTON And does your leg still give you trouble? MS ABRAHAMS Yes. MS BURTON Could you tell us a little bit more about the problems, what were the problems that the community was discussing in the meeting that night? ME ABRAHAMS MS BURTON It must have been very frightening in the hall with the tear gas and the noise and everybody running. MS ABRAHAMS Yes. MS BURTON Do you know what happened to the boy who was shot? MS ABRAHAMS Nee die - hulle het hom ingedra en toe van deurmekaarheid soos ons nou - soos van die traangas wat nou so ingegooi word deur die vensters toe het almal maar begin te hardloop en toe het ek nou nie gesien wat van die seun geword het nie. MS BURTON And who was the Mr Booysen that you mentioned. ME ABRAHAMS MS BURTON Right, so they were helping you to provide a meeting where people could come and talk about their problems. ME ABRAHAMS Ja. MS BURTON And this was part of also the campaign to ask the local councillors to resign. ME ABRAHAMS Ja. MS BURTON Thank you very much - then when you went to the Robertson Hospital and the people who turned you away do you know if that was a doctor, or if that was part of the administration at the hospital? ME ABRAHAMS No. MS BURTON That was just what they said, the people who you saw. MS ABRAHAMS Yes. MS BURTON MS ABRAHAMS Okay. MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA Wendy Orr. DR ORR Me Abrahams was daar baie ander mense daardie aand beseer? ME ABRAHAMS Ja die saal was vol, daar was baie mense gewees. DR ORR Geskiet en ook seker ander - ander wonde en die chaos. ME ABRAHAMS Ja daar is baie mense wat in daai proses seergekry het - baie mense is raak geskiet - vol donshael geskiet - baie mense was daar. DR ORR En was daar enige ondersoek om uit te vind waarom die polisie so geskiet het, was enige iemand skuldig. ME ABRAHAMS DR ORR En weet jy wat die uitslag was. ME ABRAHAMS Die uitslag was gewees die Bevelvoerder hy is glo skuldig bevind. DR ORR En weet jy wat die Bevelvoerder se naam is of kan jy nie onthou nie. ME ABRAHAMS Wat is sy naam? DR ORR Nee dis all right ons sal seker kan uitvind. ME ABRAHAMS Ek het nou sy van vergeet ek weet nou nie meer wat sy van is nie. DR ORR Maar hy is skuldig bevind. ME ABRAHAMS Ja hy is toe skuldig bevind. DR ORR Okay, goed dankie. MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA Thank you very much for coming to share your experiences with us, we are grateful that you have made us a part of the suffering that you went through. We again wish to commit ourselves to investigating the circumstances of the shooting and to respond to the specifically questions made to the Commission - thank you so much. MS ABRAHAMS Thank you.