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	<systype>decisions</systype>
	<type>AMNESTY DECISIONS</type>
				<names>PITSO JOSEPH HLASA,MOTLANA ATASIOS MPHORENG,MXOLISI ERNEST THANDAKUBONA</names>
	<case>AC/99/0230</case>
	<matter>AM 2739/96,AM 2740/96,AM 2745/96</matter>
				<decision>GRANTED/REFUSED</decision>
	<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=58908&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/decisions/1999/ac990230.htm</originalhtml>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>DECISION</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>______________________________________________________</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The applicants  make application in terms of Act 34 of 1995 amnesty in respect of the  murder&#039;s of :-  </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>1. Edwin  Vuyani Nkomo;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>2. Mbulelo Esau Mabena;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>3. Msilane Ronel  Sishange;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>4. Oscar Amos Mhlangeni,</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>and in respect of the attempted murders of :- </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>5. Simon Morris  and </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>6. Sekano Avonly Kgasi.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>All the Applicants were members of the AZAPO. The incident  which  gives rise to these  applications  occurred on 1 August 1986 in Orlando East, Orlando West and Chiawelo in Soweto near Johannesburg.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>It is common  cause  that  the origin of the conflict  stems  from the  rivalry  between the AZAPO and the United Democratic Front (UDF). There was  violence in Soweto, homes belonging  to  the members of the rival  groups  were burnt.  People were killed. Others left their homes to stay in camps in order to protect  themselves  as well as  their  members. Meetings were held  at  leadership level in attempt to stop  the violence  but to no  avail.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>On the  night before the killing  of the deceased, the house of Jefferson Lingani, an AZAPO leader was attacked  and burnt with petrol bombs. Jefferson Lingani stayed in Orlando West.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>According  to the first applicant,  Mr Lingani  came to him at Orlando East on the day  following  the day  his house had been burnt. He sought  assistance of the fellow AZAPO members, to go and clean up his house. First applicant did not go immediately because he was fixing up his car. Later that afternoon he was informed by Mxolisi, Speedo and Kabelo that some youths responsible for the burning of the house were being held  and they were at the DOCC. He then drove to the DOCC where they took the youths and drove with them to Orlando West, to Jefferson Lingani &#039;s house.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>First applicant testified that he personally did not go into the house and did not interrogate the youths. At all the times  he was outside  busy fixing his car. He testified  that at about 5 o&#039;clock, in the afternoon, members of the leadership Sam Siyema and Thami Molekwa  came and they  spoke  to the interrogators. They gave an order that  the culprits  be killed.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The culprits  were taken  to Comrade Glen&#039;s house in Chiawelo in two cars.  At Comrade Glen&#039;s house there was  a caucus and there it was decided that the culprits must be killed immediately  because it was already late. They went to look  for a spot where these culprits would be killed. After they had found it, they came back. The first three culprits were taken in Mr Hlasa&#039;s car. The people who went with him were Motlane, that is the second applicant,  Kani and Speedo. He testified that they took the three victims to a spot which  was up a hill. Mr Hlasa says  that he only shot once. The other two AZAPO members also shot once. When  the victims  fell they left  the scene.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>He noticed during the  assault that two of the boys had UDF T-shirts under their clothes. They interrogated the boys until it was dark. The two AZAPO leaders Comrade Sam Siyena and Thami  came later in the afternoon and gave an order that the boys must be killed.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>He testified that from Jeff&#039;s house three of the youths  were taken  straight to the spot  where  they  were going to be killed. He  did  not recall going to Comrade Glen&#039;s house in Chiawelo. He testified that Thami and Sam who were leaders were present at the scene of the killing. He personally shot Oscar three times on the head. After shooting Oscar he pushed him towards the bottom of the hill slope. After  that  he went  back  to the car. Sam and Thami also  shot the other two youths.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>At about 2  o&#039;clock Jeff  took  him and Kani to Orlando. On their way to Orlando they saw some of the boys who had been singing. They apprehended them.  From there they went to  first applicant Hlasa. They drove in the two vehicles  to Jeff&#039;s house in Orlando West.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>He also took part in the interrogation.  He used his bare hands and fists to assault them.  He assaulted them because he wanted  to find  out who their UDF leaders were, and  who  had ordered  them to  burn  Jeff&#039;s Lingani&#039;s house.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>After the assault they went to Glen&#039;s house. He did not take part  in the actual killing. At the time of the killing he had gone to get a gun. When he came back he was told that the boys had already been killed.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>This was  the evidence  of the applicants. There was however, one survivor who also gave evidence, that is Mr. Morris. Morris testified  that  on the day  he had  come out of school. On  the said  day  they were accompanying  one Vuyani to his home in Orlando East. There  were six of them.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>They were apprehended by, amongst others,  the first applicant. Mr Hlasa produced a firearm and threatened them. He was accompanied by the other two applicants.  They were taken in  two cars, a Chevrolet and Mazda to Jeff Lingani&#039;s  house. They  were undressed, given old clothes  and separated into  two groups  of three  and  assaulted.  Among the people who assaulted them, Hlasa, first applicant was present. Mr. Morris stated that pliers  were used  to  crush  his private  parts as part of the torture. A plastic  bag was put over his head  to suffocate  him. Thereafter they were  put into the  boot  of a car. Morris says they  were taken to a house  in Chiawelo, that  is Glen &#039;s house. After some time  they were taken to the veld.  Morris was taken with Vuyani Nkomo and Sekoane.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Hlasa, first applicant, was present. He shot him in the leg.  Mphoreng,  2nd applicant, was  also present. He also shot  him.  Seven shots  were fired at him of which three hit him. The other four shots missed him. He testified that the 1st applicant was not telling  the truth  when  he said  that they each shot once. He  is downplaying  his role. He further  indicated  the places  where the bullets  went through his body.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Section 20(1) of the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act no 34 of 1995  provides that the Amnesty  Committee  shall grant  amnesty in respect of an  act or offence if it  is satisfied  that  the act  or offence  is an act  associated  with the political objective committed  in  the course of the conflicts  of the past and that the applicant has made a full  disclosure of all  relevant facts.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>It is clear  that the abduction  of the six youths at Orlando East occurred  within a political  context. We are  prepared  to accept that the applicants may have suspected that the youths could have  been among  the people  who were singing up and down Jeff Lingani&#039;s house  during the day.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>However, we are not satisfied that the killings and attempted killings occurred within the political context. None of the  victims  were positively  identified as being among  the group that earlier  passed by Lingani&#039;s house. The victims were severely tortured.  They were asked about their  involvement  in politics  which  they denied. According  to Mr. Morris, they  denied  having  burnt  Jeff  Lingani&#039;s house. Mr. Morris  denies  that they  were wearing UDF T-shirts. He testified  that he himself  was wearing  a Kaizer Chiefs top which  he was forced  to take off. It is our  view  that after  the torture  and severe assaults the applicants  must have  realised that the people they were assaulting were not the people they were looking for. The youths were merely killed because the applicants  realised  that they  had already  assaulted and tortured  them severely. Taking  into consideration the size of the group  which was seen at Lingani&#039;s house we find it improbable that the victims could have been positively identified by Mphoreng as having  been part of the  group.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Further we are satisfied that the applicants have made a full disclosure  of the events. First  applicant  did not place himself at the scene of the abduction and yet Morris the survivor  states that  he is  the one  who came  to ask for a cigarette. </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Secondly  first applicant denies having gone into the house to assault the youths  and yet  Morris  alleges  that he also took part  in the assaults.  Second applicant says  that he  shot Oscar  and was  with the other  group.  Morris however, is adamant  that he  was part of the group which shot at him. He was with the first applicant.  According to Morris, when he started moving after he shot the  second  applicant told first applicant that Morris  was still  moving  he must be shot at again.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The third applicant somewhat downplayed his role in the assaults. For example  he did  not mention that as part of the torture he used pliers  to crush the youths, private parts. This only came after cross-examination  and he only  remembered that after  some time also the victims are saying  that they  do not  have any UDF T-shirts on. The applicants are saying that  the  youths wore UDF T-shirts. This we believe is a ploy  to justify  why they killed  the youths.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Mr. Morris &#039;s evidence was not without flaw. He, however, was an impressive witness. Minor  details, are  not  substantial as to render  his evidence  not credible. We are  satisfied  that  his account  of what  happened  during  the assaults  and the killing is  a true  reflection of what  happened.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Taking  all these  facts into account  we come  to the conclusion  that the applicants have not, since the occurrence of the incident,  given  an honest  account of what  actually happened. </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>We accordingly are not satisfied  that the applicants  have  made  a full disclosure  of all relevant  facts and for this reason  their application  for AMNESTY IS REFUSED.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Signed at Cape town on this .......... day of ...................... 1999.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>....................................... JUDGE B. NGOEPE</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>....................................... ADV. F.  BOSMAN</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>....................................... MR. W. MALAN</text>
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