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	<systype>decisions</systype>
	<type>AMNESTY DECISIONS</type>
				<names>THEMBA  MSHINI NGCOBO,PHAZIMANI NCISHANE</names>
	<case>AC/99/0237</case>
	<matter>AM 7803/97,AM 5638/97</matter>
				<decision>GRANTED</decision>
	<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=58915&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/decisions/1999/ac990237.htm</originalhtml>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>DECISION</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>______________________________________________________</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The applicants  apply for  amnesty in terms of Section 18 of the Act in respect of the following  offences:- </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 1.  Killing of  Samson  Mvundla;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 2.  Killing  of  Mzikayifani Amos Cele;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 3.  Attempted murder of  Mandla Zondi;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 4.  Robbery of Mvundla&#039;s wristwatch and his  wallet  containing  R30,00 and </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 5.  Robbery of Cele&#039;s wristwatch;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>committed on the 20 July 1991 at or near  Malukazi in the district of Durban.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The first applicants testified that in 1990 Malukazi was engulfed  by political violence arising from the political conflict between  the ANC and the IFP in their quest for political turf over Malukazi.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The first applicants averred that sometime in 1991 but shortly before the commission of the offences for which he seeks  amnesty, the ANC section to which he resided was allegedly continuously  attacked  by members  of the IFP. He was also the object  of such an attack but had managed to escape without any  injuries. The last straw that broke the camel&#039;s back was an attack by the IFP on one particular night prior to the 20th July 1991 launched against an ANC section in which he resided.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>After this incident the first applicant as a commander of the ANC in that area decided to launch indiscriminate retaliatory attacks  against the IFP members in the area. To this extent he instructed  the second applicant and one Myboy Mavuso to accompany him with a view to achieve this purpose. The first applicant was familiar with the two houses used by the IFP in that area for their camping and intended to attack these houses as well as any person  perceived  to be a member of the IFP in that vicinity. </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>On  their  way to accomplish their objective they came across Mvundla who was known to the second applicant as an IFP  Inyanga, being accompanied by his wife.  They followed Mvundla to a house and once he was inside the house, only the first  applicant went into the house.  Once inside the house he questioned  him about two alleged prominent leaders of the IFP,  Mahomba and Henry.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Mvundla advised him that they were at an alleged IFP camp. The first applicant ordered Mvundla to take him to them. When Mvundla came outside, and upon laying his eyes on the second applicant and Myboy he attempted to run away but was shot at  by Myboy as well as the first applicant. The reasons advanced by the applicants for having shot Mvundla were that had he managed to flee he would  have been able to alert other IFP members of their  presence in the area and that in any event their intention  was to kill perceived IFP supporters in that section which was known to be a  stronghold of IFP members.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>After shooting Mvundla the first applicant took his wristwatch and his wallet containing  R30. When the first applicant was questioned  as why  he took  Mvundla&#039;s wristwatch and wallet, he  contended that it was common practice to repossess their  enemies  of items of value  and sell them  for cash in order to buy weaponry. He averred  that he sold  the wristwatch  for R20 at a hostel and that the proceeds derived therefrom this robbery were used  to buy ammunition from the nearby  hostel.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>After shooting Mvundla the applicants thereafter left the  scene to pursue their aforesaid objective. Along the way they came across alleged IFP members Mandla Zondi and  Amos Cele. When Mandla  Zondi  saw the applicants approaching he ran away.  Amos Cele  also attempted  to run away  but  was shot at by the applicants and  Mavuso. The first applicant shot at Mr Cele but Mr Zondi managed to escape. </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Immediately  after this shooting the applicants were pursued by Indians who were apparently  in the vicinity. They  therefore  ran away and were unable to get to the IFP camp as intended.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The second applicant testified that he was instructed by the first  applicant to accompany him to seek out the IFP members  in order to kill them in retaliation for the earlier attacks  launched against  their section by the IFP.  He contended that he was acting under the instructions of the first applicant when this incident occurred and knew the first applicant to have been a duly elected leader of the ANC in his area whose primary function was to protect ANC members in that area. To this extent his participation in the commission of these offences was in the execution of an order by  a person he knew to have been authorised  by the ANC community  in his area to command operations  such  as the ones  in which  he participated and for which  he seeks  amnesty. He  evinced that insofar as the robbery was concerned he had not personally participated in that act nor did he have prior knowledge that it would  be committed  but had seen the first applicant removing  the wristwatch and a wallet from both deceased and associated  himself  with those acts.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Having  regard to the evidence before us with regard to the killing of Mr Mvundla and Mr Cele, we are satisfied that the second applicant participated in the acts for which he seeks amnesty in the execution of an order given by his commander, the first  applicant.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The first applicant was a commander of the ANC Unit in his  section  and committed the offences  for which  he seeks amnesty  in his capacity as such. The deceased were killed by the applicants because they were perceived to be IFP members. It was the  stated objective of the first applicant to kill IFP members  that day in retaliation for the alleged  attacks  committed  against  members of  his organisation allegedly by the IFP  members.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>There is no evidence to the contrary that there were no political  conflicts  between the  IFP and the ANC in the area  nor  that the applicant was not a commander of the ANC in that area. In the absence of  anything to the contrary, we have  to  accept the version given by the  applicants  in this regard. </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Amnesty is therefore GRANTED to the first applicant  for killing Mr  Mvundla and Mr Cele.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Insofar as the robbery is concerned, it is probable that the  applicant was authorised by his organisation  in his  capacity  as a commander to rob IFP members whom they had attacked of firearms and whatever  possessions  that could be converted into cash in order to fund his command for weaponry and ammunition which  was in great demand  and was  an important  ingredient to the attainment of political control in the area.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>In a situation such as this one there is always room for a commander to abuse his authority and rob his opponents for his  personal gain.  However there is no evidence that he derived  any personal  gain and in the absence  thereof  we have  to accept the  only  version  before us  as given  by the first applicant  that the proceeds derived therefrom were utilised to purchase  ammunition  for use  by his command.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Amnesty is therefore GRANTED to the first applicant for the killing of Mr Mvundla and  Mr Cele as well as the two acts of robbery.  </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>1. THEMBA  MSHINI NGCOBO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Amnesty is GRANTED  for the following offences:-</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 1. Killing  of Samson Mvundla</text>
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			<text> 2. Killing of Mzikzyifzni Amos Cele</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 3. Attempted murder of  Mandla Zondi</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 4. Robbery  of Mvundla&#039;s  wristwatch and his wallet  containing R30,00;   and</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 5. Robbery of  Cele&#039;s  wristwatch</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Committed on 20 July 1991 at or near Malukazi in the district of Durban.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>2. PHAZIMANI JOE MCISHANE</text>
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			<text>Amnesty is GRANTED for the following  offences:-</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 1. Killing  of  Samson Mavundla </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 2. Killing of Mzikayifani Amos Cele </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 3. Attempted murder  of Mandla Zondi</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 4. Robbery of Mvundla&#039;s wristwatch and wallet   containing a sum of  R30, 00.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> 5. Robbery of Cele&#039;s wristwatch.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Committed on 20 July 1991 at or near  Malukazi in the District in Durban.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The Committee is of the opinion that the relatives of the deceased Amos Cele and Samson Mavundla are victims as defined in the Act and recommended that they  be referred to the Committee on Reparation and Rehabilitation for consideration in terms thereof.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Signed on the ...................... day of ........................1999.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>................................</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>JUDGE S. KHAMPEPE</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>.....................................</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>ADV. C. de JAGER</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>.......................................</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR. W. MALAN</text>
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