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	<type>AMNESTY DECISIONS</type>
				<names>RONALD KASRILS</names>
		<matter>AM5509/97</matter>
				<decision>GRANTED</decision>
	<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=59450&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/decisions/2001/ac21168.htm</originalhtml>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>DECISION</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>This is an application for amnesty in terms of the provisions   of Section 18 of the Promotion of National Unity and Reconciliation Act, No.   34 of 1995 (&quot;the Act&quot;).  The matter is being dealt with in chambers   and relates to a number of incidents which will be set out more fully later.    None of these incidents constitutes gross violations of human rights necessitating   a public hearing.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The Applicant is a high profile political leader and presently   a member of the South African Cabinet.  He has, at all material times, occupied   positions of leadership and authority within the African National Congress (&quot;ANC&quot;)   as well as its military wing, Umkhonto weSizwe (&quot;MK&quot;).  He had been   a member of MK since its inception.  After having conducted some operations   under the auspices of MK inside South Africa, he went into exile to evade arrest   in connection with, among others, the Rivonia trial of the top ANC leadership   in 1963 - 1964.  He received military training in exile, whereafter he joined   the ANC/MK command structures in exile whence he conducted various operations   until his eventual official return to the country after the unbanning of the   liberation movements during 1990.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Applicant has appeared at hearings of the Committee and   testified about his involvement in the ANC liberation struggle.  He was granted   amnesty in respect of the incidents which were heard, save for certain landmine   operations which are referred to in Applicant&#039;s written application.  At a hearing   which was to have dealt with the matter, it was contended on Applicant&#039;s behalf   that there was no application before the Committee, because Applicant was unable   to identify particular incidents.  The matter was struck from the roll on that   occasion.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>The various remaining incidents   and activities in which the Applicant was involved and for which he seeks amnesty   are set out in the following extracts from his amnesty application :</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>&quot;1961 - 1963</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      As a member of the MK Regional Command,   Natal, commanded by Curnick Ndlovu &amp; Billy Nair, I participated in all the   planning and preparation relevant to this command.  I recruited and trained   Cadres and personally participated in several sabotage operations.  I also helped   plan and carry out the theft of a large quantity of dynamite which we used and   distributed to other MK commands.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      Operations between December 1961 and   mid-1963 which I was personally involved in.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Durban Municipal Pass Office -   15 December 1961 - causing a bomb explosion.  This was with Bruno Mtolo.  No   injuries but damage to property was caused;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Severing telephone cables - Shell   Cross.  Damage to property;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Setting goods trains alight with   petrol bombs - August 1962 in protest during Mandela&#039;s first trial;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Theft of dynamite from Road Construction   Company near Marionhill, with Billy Nair, Bruno Mtolo and Eleanor Kasrils (nee   Anderson);</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Destruction of electric pylons   near Pinetown with David Ndawonde and Eleanor Kasrils.  Damage to property;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Bomb explosion at offices of Security   Police, Baker Street, Durban with Eleanor Kasrils.  No injuries but damage to   property;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Bomb explosion at offices of Bata   Shoe Company, Pine Street, Durban at time of workers&#039; strike.  I carried out   this operation with Nathu Babewa.  Damage to property;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Bomb explosion at Central Post   Office, Durban Christmas 1962 with Eleanor Kasrils.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      I was subsequently named as a co-conspirator   in both the Rivonia and Pietermaritzburg trials 196 - 164, but had evaded arrest   and gone into exile.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>1965 - 1976</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      After completing military training in   the Soviet Union and spending time at an MK camp in Tanzania, I was deployed   to London.  I was part of a command consisting of Yusuf Dadoo, Joe Slovo, Jack   Hodgson and myself.  Our task was to assist in building the underground in South   Africa and this involved recruiting and training Cadres, smuggling material   into the country and directing operations.  These were mainly propaganda operations   but also involved setting up infrastructure for MK.  Some Cadres involved were   Alex Moumbaris, Tony Holiday, Ahmed Timol, Raymond Suttner, David &amp; Sue   Rabkin, Tim Jenkin and Steve Lee.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     They set off scores of leaflet   bombs in city centres, no injuries were sustained.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      *     Infiltration of trained guerrillas.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>1977 - 1979</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      Deployment to Angola as political instructor   and then Regional Commissioner.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>1978 - 1979</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      During this period I provided political   education to instil in cadres the principles and morality of the liberation   movement, and motivated Cadres to develop and intensify the armed struggle.    We stressed the avoidance of race war and identified the enemy as the Apartheid   system.  Consequently the targets of armed operatives were identified as government   leaders and administrators, the security forces, collaborators and informers.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>1980 - 1989</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      Applicant held various positions of leadership   within the ANC and MK and participated in the activities set out as follows   in the amnesty application):</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      My role was general leadership.  In this   respect I take collective responsibility for operations as per the ANC submissions   to TRC.  I enthusiastically and strongly motivated Cadres to develop and intensify   the struggle as per ANC policy, strategy and tactics.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      As chief of military intelligence I supervised   the gathering of information that would assist us in prosecuting the struggle   against the State.  We focused on security force command structures and personnel,   deployment, battle order, strategy and tactics, bases and installations, communications,   arms and equipment and state of morale.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      We also compiled information on the country&#039;s geography and   terrain, power an communication network, the economy, the industrial and agricultural   sectors.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      We gave special attention to border reconnaissance   and developing infiltration routes home.  Cadres returning home were trained   in collecting data and carrying out their own reconnaissance against the background   of information and briefings given by military intelligence.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      Pietersburg Holiday Inn - Anthea&#039;s Club</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      Another operation which falls into the   category described above (i.e. where I was involved with a unit that carried   out reconnaissance as well as the operation) was the explosion at Anthea&#039;s Club   at Pietersburg Holiday Inn.  This was carried out by Rocky Williams under my   instruction.  Reconnaissance had shown that this club was frequented by off   duty security personnel and the operation was in line with the ANC policy to   attack security personnel wherever they were found.  No injuries were sustained.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>1990 - 1994</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      Operation Vula</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      I was part of this project under the   command of Mac Maharaj.  The aim was to strengthen the underground inside the   country.  Trained Cadres and weapons were brought into the country from 1987   when Maharaj and Sipiwe Nyanda came home.  I later joined them.  To my knowledge   no operations were conducted.  After the ban on the ANC was lifted and temporary   indemnity granted to members of the ANC&#039;s NEC in May 1990 Maharaj and I were   ordered to return secretly to Lusaka so that we could publicly return home and   take part in the negotiation process.  There was never any intention of plotting   to derail the negotiations by violence as former President FW De Klerk and his   police chiefs alleged.  &quot;Vula&quot; had been an ongoing ANC project to   strengthen the underground in South Africa when the ANC was banned.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      Self Defence Units</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>      These were set up with encouragement   from the top ANC leadership as a means to defend the township communities under   siege from hostile forces and third force hit squads.  I was given the task   of helping to arm the SDUs.  I worked with an MK unit .....  We created DLBs   in the worst hit areas:  Durban, Pietermaritzburg, Vaal Triangle, East and West   Rand, Eastern Cape including Ciskei and Western Cape.  In these areas I worked   with a variety of people from MK structures .....  I handed DLB diagrams to   Chris Hani who passed these on to those responsible in the areas concerned.    I also wrote the document: &quot;For the sake of our Lives&quot; which gave   guidance to SDU about self-defence planning and tactics and stressed the need   for discipline and non-sectarian service to the communities in order to create   peace and security.  The supply of weapons to SDUs throughout the country ceased   by the end of 1993.&quot;</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Having carefully considered the matter, we are satisfied   that the application complies with all of the requirements of the Act.  Applicant&#039;s   actions as set out above, constitute acts associated with a political objective   as envisaged in the Act and Applicant has made a full disclosure of all relevant   facts.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>In the circumstances amnesty is   hereby GRANTED to the Applicant in respect of all offences and delicts directly   resulting from his actions and activities listed above.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>DATED AT CAPE TOWN THIS 14TH DAY   OF MAY 2001</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>DENZIL POTGIETER A-J</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>ADV F BOSMAN</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>ADV N SANDI</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>??</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>2</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>/...</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>/...</text>
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