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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation MR RAUTENBACH: So it was about the whole issue of co-operation? ANSWER:: It was, we did it in the open. After we had taken firearms from the ANC members we would go to the single quarters at the barracks and we operated freely, people would come to my room freely so it was a general operation amongst us. MR MBANDAZAYO: Now there was a mention that you were five in this operation, this incident. The first is with regard to the interception of postal items, that the impression has been created at the very least that there was a very effective operation on the way to intercept all postal items? MR RAS: No. He would have known that it would be used in order to kill people, but he wasn't informed specifically about the operation. MR LAX: Yes, I understand that being the motive of the operation, but I want you to turn to page, do you have the documents in front of you, page 3? Page 3 forms part of your amnesty application, dated the 25th of April 1997. The date is on the previous page, the page after that. The first applicant stood guard outside the bank. At first the operation worked according to how he had planned. But whilst the others were inside the police appeared and foiled the robbery. ... in Northern Natal. I think basically this was in conjunction with what was happening in the Southern Natal as you had spoken at large around the Operation Butterfly. The issue was that all the activities were concentrated only on the southern part of Natal and nothing was happening in ... MR RAUTENBACH: I want to ask you Mr Mostert, you reach this point. It was the second time that he had been shocked, it’s the second time that he had jerked and still there is no co-operation. How would it proceed now? What was in your mind? What were you thinking? ... was not relieved for greasing, it was just an ordinary activity, he did not have a lot or property as it is mentioned. Secondly with regard to co-operation with the people, the reason why he competed with people is because the youth went to tell him he could not allow that to happen, because he ... MR LAMEY: I may be wrong but my recollection of Mr Coetzee's evidence is indeed that the black members were not present during the whole, or were not aware of this turning action during this whole operation, if I understand his evidence correctly. ... which had to be studied by the Security Branch. As they entered the building, Applicant and his colleagues were shot at and had to abort the operation. A window and one downpipe were damaged during the ... This "operation" took place after the first democratic elections had already occurred; MR BERGER: It's correct, is it not, Mr Mthembu, that not one of the attackers was hurt during this operation, am I right? MR J KOK: It was basically, as I said, it was an operation that came from de Kock. It had authorisation from the top. Dirk Coetzee was the target. The package must be prepared, there's already surveillance going on. I heard about this in the hallways, it was not official and that this package ... MR VISSER: So what must be inferred from your evidence is that there was no danger whatsoever for any life or property involved in this operation for which you gave the authorisation? ... chap, that from experience with prior detentions, apparently in Natal, he mentioned that during those periods of detention he offered no co-operation, that he would ignore one and that on a different occasion in King William's Town, he had beaten a security officer, a certain Mr Hattingh ... election campaign that I endured a lot of stress to the point where I actually suffered a heart-attack, and in 1990 I had to undergo a heart by-pass operation. The result of that election is now history today, and I realised that the political dispensation in this country had changed irrevocably; ... What is the problem with your health? --- I have asthma and operation. I was operated because I was sick. The second announcement is that if you are in possession of a cellphone, please switch that phone off now as it can be very disturbing particularly for the witnesses. Thank you very much for your co-operation. |
