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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 661 to 680 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last PageMr Chairman, regarding the Chand incident, the only issues to be addressed on behalf of Gen Engelbrecht are the following allegations by Mr De Kock. The first is that Engelbrecht was present when Van Rensburg instructed him, that is De Kock, to proceed with the attack and thereby associating ... MR ROSSOUW: There was also co-operation between your team and the Security Police in KwaNdebele? MR BOTHA: Mr Chairperson, I can't remember, but I think that that information was given to the Investigative Team. There was a dossier with that information contained in it. MR POTGIETER: Thank you, you may be seated. Welcome to George as well. Mr Lizo, your evidence relates to two incidents. The first one concerns an incident which happened between 1986 and 1987 where you were arrested and tortured by the police, and the second incident relates to August 1993 when ... DR RANDERA: The one other aspect, and I am sure our investigating team will have to make further enquiries, is that when you enquired at the police station in Thlabani, they actually had the name of your son in the book. That is what you say in your statement. I am asking this question because my ... Those who are working in our investigation team they will bring all the evidence that Sipho Madlala has brought forward. We will see if we can do something. And another thing that you've requested it's help about counselling, you need psychological help, counselling or therapy. Are you still ... The incident occurred while a team of Vlakplaas members was assisting the Nelspruit Security Branch. The team were led by Captain Baker and consisted further of Lieutenant Van Dyk, Sergeant Nofemela and Constable Nicholas Dube. He is applying for amnesty as an accessory after the fact and for defeating the ends of justice. He did not partake in the planning of this particular attack or took part in the execution of the murders. He was, however, aware that a murder was planned and visited the scene thereafter without ... CHAIRPERSON: We thank the three of you for the testimony which you have come to give here. We will send our Investigative Team to you in Fort Beaufort to come and take more details as they are going to go and investigate the MR ROSSOUW: Just before we continue, the co-operation between yourself, a member of C2 to then join the operational team, C1, did this happen before at other opportunities? Have you worked with them before? MR BOTHA: Col de Kock told us that Mr Baker would take over the operation and that me, Wouter Mentz, Rian Bellingan and Baker himself would form the team who would undertake the work. MR PIENAAR: I can only start, Chairperson, by saying that I did not have any knowledge beforehand of this operation that was executed by Capt van Dyk and his team. One morning he approached me in my office and informed me that he had a man at Moolman that was brought from Swaziland, and if I would ... MR LAMEY: And from there then you made statements to the investigating team from the Attorney-General's office. Can you briefly tell the Committee what the circumstances were surrounding the signing of your initial amnesty application? How did this come about? MR DU TOIT: It is possible that I spoke to him, but I cannot recall that I said anything to him regarding a disguise or a beard or anything like that. Usually there were many people on such a scene and the first person that one would speak to would be the demolitions expert, who in this case was ... MR HLONGWANE: Yes, Zekele planned it and it came down to me and I took it to the rest of the team. ADV. MOTATA: Because if you take it a step further, that firstly at least assistance of a member of the ANC and we know the policy of the ANC didn't cover that and if there was a request, let's accept there was a request from Mabena, he had ample opportunity to look for his fellow PAC members and ... We thank our Eastern Cape colleagues, Commissioner, Commissioner Bongani Finca and all his colleagues in this region for their very hard work, demonstrating that I head up a team of outstanding persons as Commissioners and Committee members, some of whom are here with me today. MR NGOBESE:: Yes, it is correct. He was telling the truth if that were the needs. If the needs of the team were not being fulfilled, I agree with him. When I arrived there there was a team of five policemen, of which the head of the policemen was Captain Thlakanya. They continued interrogating me and they realised that I was wearing an ANC T-shirt underneath. That is where things started to be bad. They undressed me and started beating me. ... The conference had not started, we were preparing for the conference. When I came back I was out casted by the police that were called INKATHA. I - I showed him the - the document, he then said he would speak to his team and that was that. |
