askari

MR KLOPPER: At a stage it came to my knowledge that he had been an askari who had defected and that allegedly he had returned to the ANC and he had contact with Winnie Mandela.

MR BENZIEN: Sergeant Bellingham was a member of the South African Police Security Branch who from time to time, came to Cape Town with members or with Black members of I understood it to be rehabilitated or the word was used, rehabilitated or askari policemen.

CHAIRPERSON: So he was already an askari at that point?

Upon my arrival there, I met du Preez and accompanied him to the Security Branch offices where I saw a member of Col Andy Taylor's askari unit, namely Vusi Ninela. At that stage I was du Preez's commanding officer and Col Taylor was the Commander of the terrorist unit. Now it needs to be ...

... and that we had to make the necessary arrangements to prepare the various weapons and go there and just before we departed he informed me that an askari by the name of Mabotha who had apparently been at Vlakplaas before and who had turned and who had been picked up by the Johannesburg security ...

CHAIRPERSON: When you say "weer" you mean that he had been engaged in such activities; he had subsequently become an askari and had stopped then and that when he left Vlakplaas he reverted to what he had been doing before.

ADV PRINSLOO: And you have heard what his plans were, to turn this man, to obtain information of what he wanted to do, or to use him as an Askari?

to the C R Swart Square offices of the Security Branch in Durban. At the offices I found a person being held who had apparently been arrested by an askari. At some stage Col Botha requested to speak to us in another office. Present there were Col Taylor, Col Botha, Maj du Preez and myself. It ...

MR P WILLIAMS: Then my second last question is you said that - I can't recall if you said Mr de Kock said or someone said that your purpose as an Askari was to hunt and to kill the terrorists. Was that correct?

MR CORNELIUS: Upon the issue of the order to fetch Mabotha, did you understand that he was an Askari?

MR CORNELIUS: Upon the issue of the order to fetch Mabotha, did you understand that he was an Askari?

MR MGIDLANA: Don't you know an askari by the name of Mtshiza M-T-S-H-I-Z-A, the first name, who was a lady, who was an askari then who might not be one today?

3. The general application for the torture of unknown persons during the time the Applicant was an askari is also REFUSED.

MR CORNELIUS: Did you understand that this was an askari that you had to pick up?

... that you were responsible in Soweto certainly? Now from the evidence that we've heard Mr Mabotha was an MK member who was turned and became an askari, he was stationed at Mrs Mandela's house at some stage. So surely in the course of your monitoring, he's someone who should have been on your ...

MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, briefly, Goodwill Sikhakhane was recruited by Vlakplaas from Swaziland by I think his cousin, Godfrey Radebe, who was an askari at Vlakplaas and with his defection which he chose, this is now Goodwill Sikhakhane, I was not present, I was busy in Vienna recruiting a senior ...

MR CORNELIUS: You obtained information from a so-called askari, is that correct?

... do would have been to have her work as an informer inside South Africa, then ...(indistinct) other MK members inside the country. Turn her into an askari working with you inside. It doesn't make sense to say we are taking you back to Lesotho when she's already under ...

MS PATEL: In order to cross-reference the information that your askari would have been or would have requested from the group, details such as the persons addresses would have been included.

Then there is another aspect concerning the askari and on tape 1540 the Honourable Chairperson, Honourable Judge Pillay, asked Mr Deetlefs: