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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 981 to 1000 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageWhen we entered, we instructed them to lay down. Mr Ngwenya led us in the operation. Then Mr le Krish volunteered to show us where the safes are, where guns are put. He went there, then he informed us that he is not able to find the keys. Then Mrs le Krish told us that she would go and ask ... CHAIRPERSON: I understand that this was not a matter of a simple interpretation, but it required the co-operation of a number of people including the applicant, but I gather we are now satisfied with the version that has been put up and we should, perhaps, mark it 35A so that it can go into the ... MR VISSER: He also said that after he had committed this task in co-operation with Mamome and Ramouseau, he reported back and you were not satisfied that they did not remove enough articles from that house and that you thought he had to remove more articles from that house to simulate a break-in. After the operation, I told this policeman that we did not do anything, there was no need for him to guard us and he left. I stayed in the hospital for three weeks and after that I was sent to prison. I stayed for three months in prison and I was released but had to go and report to the police ... ... us. Even if the arrests happened before we achieved our objective. It was in 1985 when we were still planning to bring the consumer boycott into operation, as we know that even before Judas Iscariot was there. I was arrested on the 12th of September, and therefore our plans to continue with ... ... until I got home. It was late at night. They were shooting in the air. Now, this hand of yours that has been damaged, how is it now after the operation? --- This left hand doesn't function properly as the right hand. I do not know what they did. I don't know whether they put in some ... ... in the Dawn Magazine which explained that both your sons were Commanders in MK and that they had been shot in a shootout with the police after an operation. They were actually named in the heros column of the Dawn Magazine. I am not sure if that was quite clear to ... MR VAN DYK: That is correct. I wouldn't say that his courage failed him completely, I think perhaps he didn't want to carry on with the operation, but after we spoke we then together, both of us went to the wooden house. "Look, we've got our target, the policeman" and an hour later they have their weapons and they go into the house. It just seems that to arrange an operation like this, there had to be some form of planning and it seems clear, Chairperson, that yes, Mr Andrew Chauke did go to that house, he did ... "The Three Million Gang was used by the SAP of the previous regime and former local council, to destabilise the ANC and its alliances. The operation which were made, were perpetrated by the above indicated departments. They were assaulting, maiming, raping even end up killing those who were ... ... He further testified that the said acts were committed in the execution of the orders of his commander, one Bulelani Xuma, a director of special operations of APLA who also provided the arms for the ... ... Mr Chairperson, Hugo on behalf of Mr de Kock. De Kock also applied for amnesty with regards to the Khanya House incident. He was in charge of the operation and I can tell you for record purposes, he did not say that General van der Merwe or Vlok gave any instructions. He is not going to say ... ... that his general instructions were to seek, identify and attack the enemy, as well as to train other cadres and to command them in whatever operation that was being embarked upon. Applicant testified that on 21st January 1993 he commanded a unit of APLA cadres to attack policemen working ... MR BOOYENS: And as far as you are concerned, if the Vlakplaas operation was disclosed it would be an effective piece of machinery, according to you perception, possibly it would have rendered it useless and so on, is that correct? ...(transcriber's interpretation) ... which focuses on the role of health workers and through many of the testimonies that we've heard over the past year that the Commission has been in operation, we've heard of not only the brutality of the security police and other security personnel, but we've also heard of the callousness of some ... HOT PURSUIT OF OPERATION AT JOZINI MR ALBERTS: Now you have already expressed your sentiments during the previous application concerning the unfortunate consequences that this type of operation held. Do you stand by that too for the present purposes or not? So can I please ask for your co-operation in that regard. Was that the other point? MR RICHARD: Now the question is the following, did you intend to kill the deceased Constable, when you set out on your operation that evening, that morning? MR BLOSE: No, not at all. That was mainly to avoid the leakage of information and also to protect the operation so everything was compartmentalised. |
