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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation Showing 981 to 1000 of 1009 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: We've heard that witchcraft still is in operation and I appreciate what you've just said, if you are granted amnesty, how you will deal with the issues. At that time there was a battle going on, a political battle and certain things occurred. In some quarters they say it was wrong ... M TYOBEKA: The following day after the operation, before the police came, the Doctor showed me my X-Ray plates. I was scared because I could see some object in my stomach. MR NGCAMLA: My request is that I have three cracks in my right arm and I had an operation in my chest and I could not work. My children want money, everything wants Mr Potgieter: Just to be more specific General, in regard to an issue that enjoys our attention, the former Civil Co-operation Bureau (CCB). From your perspective should there be any difficulty for the Commission in gaining access to records relating to that organisation. ... Dumile and Thabiso who was driving the getaway car. He did not report the incident to anybody and assumed that Thabiso, who was in command of the operation, would do so. He, the Applicant, did not derive any personal benefit from the ... CHAIRPERSON: I'm at a loss. And you have just stated and confirmed that you knew you were going to use firearms, you knew before the operation got underway, during the planning, that you were going to use firearms. By your own admission you couldn't have undertaken a mission of this nature ... ... of people to assist him in executing this task. A decision was taken that Sibiya should be the first target to be attacked. The plan was put into operation on the day of the incident being 3 May 1994. Second Applicant and the group of combatants whom he had selected to assist him, proceeded to ... MR RATHMAN: And what I want to know is how long did this whole operation take, this whole attack in which you were involved? MR WILLS: Why did you not investigate more thoroughly or plan your operation more thoroughly to ensure that the people who you killed and injured were the people who you intended to kill and injure? MR VISSER: Thank you. Were you ever informed of any operation in which Mbulelo Ngono was involved in, in South Africa, or one of the so-called home States, homelands? MR MAPOMA: And I take it that he never gave you instructions to go into that operation, am I correct? FURTHER EXAMINATION BY MR LAMEY: Mr Mosiane I think perhaps you should only - in this incident would you also - can you just clarify for us, that is the next ...(indistinct - background noise) incident that we're dealing with. You referred here to another operation MR BIZOS: It has been suggested that the information that reached Mr Verster, the Director of this Civil Co-operation, ...(indistinct), that the information that reached him that you were a bunch of gangsters ... ... of the sentence says: "the applicant was never a member of the security branch, Northern Transvaal and as such, was never a trusted member of the operation". So, it’s just an added part of the sentence which could have been left out ... ADV BOSMAN: And perhaps it's not fair to ask you this, but why did Mr Taylor, in your mind, summon du Preez to this operation, which fell outside of his normal activities? ... up people to have them shot, that you set them up in a robbery merely to shoot them. If you were to think back, would you have continued with the operation if these persons had not indicated any intention to commit a robbery and if there had not been any information that they had committed ... MR DU TOIT: The first inference that I drew was that this would be used for an offensive action and secondly, that this would be used in a cross-border operation because of the great deal of trouble that went into the packing of these items. ADV MPSHE: And you have to be satisfied that this person is actually a member of the UDF before you can instruct the other guys to carry out the operation not so? could be wrong. What did you discuss and then what actually happened? What did you discuss and how did you go about putting those discussions into ... MR SIBEKO: And you, with your comrades, got that information from Lucky Mampuru, who happened to have a co-operation or a working relationship with the members of the community of Everest, is that what you say? |
