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people's warExplanation MR DE KOCK: Yes, everybody was enthusiastic. People would have had fist fights in order to be first in line. Today of course they're fighting to be last in line but I will tell you that everybody was enthusiastic about it. MR MAKOLA: We were talking in public, that is the day when we had a meeting. We had a meeting of the youth league then the leadership when they arrived without the youth outside, outside the hall, when we enquired what was the problem we found out that the hall was locked because Boy Skosana did ... DR RANDERA: Mr Molotshwa, you too live in Tokoza and we are going to December in 1990 and also a few months later, in December of 1990 your brother Ntembikose Mlotshwa was shot and killed and so was your brother in law Tom Buthelezi, I think. All three people who were shot and killed were members ... DR RANDERA: Tata you talk about having spent 12 years on Robben Island and those from my reading of people who have been there was some of the darkest days on that prison. Can you tell us something about your experiences on the island. But when we spoke to Wisile Mafalan, I am sorry to mention names, the friend, the friend with whom he was, and he was supposed to be Dick's best man. He said to us when they left Dick's fiancee's home, there were people outside in cars and there is only one entrance from Ladysmith. So somewhere ... Mr Chairman, the people subpoenaed are present today. That is Mr Andre Beetge, Mr Nick Deetliefs and Mr Adriaan Pieter van Niekerk as well as Captain Holmes. Mr Chairman, what I am going to say excludes Captain Holmes, it applies to the first three I have mentioned. Chairperson, the initial investigations which were initiated was an attempted murder with regard to a landmine which was placed under a police vehicle and not enough evidence could be obtained in order to prosecute them, and then it was in Silverton, where there was a landmine explosion, Pretoria ... MS MALAZA: ... and we peeped through the windows and we saw Imbokhoto people surrounding the school. We just went out of the classrooms to have a look at what was happening and they got into the yard. It will, of course, if such application is successful, mean that we'd have to allow proper time for such people to prepare themselves and to find out what they are expected to answer on and this, in turn, would necessitate a postponement. Given the crowded situation with the schedule of the ... When I got home his mother was already present and whilst we were sitting there some policemen came into the house. They started assaulting all the people who were there especially the youth asking them as to what they wanted and they started kicking the others who were there as well as the ... The witness saw how the woman came out of the shop and how she shot. There isn’t only one witness, there are many even some White people who came there before I did whom I went to see and they told me they would help me with this matter. MR RANDERA: Thank you Mrs Dlamini. Can you please tell us in your own words what you have already said to our Statement Takers about your granddaughter, Frida Mabalane. MS DLAMINI: It was on the 27th at night. Peggy called me in Johannesburg and told me that the child has been burnt and died ... The gist of Moshoaliba's evidence is that Mohale expressed a desire to travel to the neighbouring countries so as to meet ANC people who would give him military training and arms to bring back into the country; Mohale and his group did not have the means to travel and they did not know any ... MR BOOYENS: And there were quite a few people there among others, Mr de Kock and some of your colleagues as well as Task Force people, people that you didn't know? MR NYAWUZA: Mr Mabuza, I seem to be having a problem here because we're having a situation on this particular day where a police officer is going to be attacked way before the thought of killing the deceased comes to mind, you are attacking people of the same stature, both are police officers, but ... We patrolled the township and on the other side I was being assaulted. There was a road leading into the township and next to that road there were NRC offices for people who wanted to join the mines. The Applicant relies solely on the alleged instructions by Zulu, which, as communicated by Mr van der Hyde, Zulu denies. Zulu though did not testify and the denial carries less weight than the allegation by the Applicant, made under oath. There is however the fact, not explained by the Applicant, ... In considering the evidence before it, more particularly that of Mr Kriel, the Committee accepts that the setting up of the road block was in line with general AWB police and that the prime objective was to obtain weapons in this manner. The Committee does not, however, accept that it was policy ... MR GOOSEN: Chairperson, with many of these instances the principle of need-to-know is applied and it was drilled in if something is not disclosed to you, you do not ask questions about it, if people want to inform you they will inform you. MR RICHARD: Now, where were you in relation to the deceased when you arrived at the mountain and did you see anything being done to her or happening to her? 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