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people's warExplanation MR DE KOCK: Yes, everybody was enthusiastic. People would have had fist fights in order to be first in line. Today of course they're fighting to be last in line but I will tell you that everybody was enthusiastic about it. And hence I'm saying that if you look in all these operations in which Madasi was involved also Heidelberg, St James, Crazy Beat Disco in Durban and all others which are similar to them, where it was an offence attack, you find that most of the time the people who were involved, it's rare that you ... We felt at that time, that as the leadership, we had to take the political responsibility for what had happened, and therefore declined to take up that offer. We do not have any direct knowledge of who participated in the assault, but we do know however, that there were two people associated with ... MR MPSHE: Thank you Mr Chairman and members of the Committee. Mr Chairman, we’re going to start with the application of Stephen Mqeketsi Monyake, application number 1352/96. Mr Chairman, I just want to put on record that all the people affected by this application, that is the victims and next of ... CHAIRPERSON: And wasn't it part of that agreement that people handing in their weapons wouldn't be prosecuted? MR MAKOLA: We were talking in public, that is the day when we had a meeting. We had a meeting of the youth league then the leadership when they arrived without the youth outside, outside the hall, when we enquired what was the problem we found out that the hall was locked because Boy Skosana did ... MR LYSTER: Mrs Mukosi, you have got people here with you today. Who have you got with you? They had gone quite a long way towards formulating rights of children who had run foul of the law. I spoke to Professor Sas Strauss and I spoke to all sorts of people. I went to the main library at Wits and I read through the Prisons Act and I read through the Criminal Procedures Act and all I ... The gist of Moshoaliba's evidence is that Mohale expressed a desire to travel to the neighbouring countries so as to meet ANC people who would give him military training and arms to bring back into the country; Mohale and his group did not have the means to travel and they did not know any ... Now in August there was the Pollsmoor march and many people were caught up in that, do you remember that? MS MAKOPE: You see at the time when he disappeared we didn't know what had happened to him, he had just gone to work as far as we were concerned. But there is a person who came, a ...(indistinct), apparently he went to the business and found Andrew's aunt and he told Andrew's aunt that at the ... MR BOB: It was on a Sunday in the morning. I was talking to Nunusi telling her that she must wash my T-shirt because I was going to wear it as I was going to work. She told me that there was no soap so I gave her R5 and I told her to go and buy some. She went to do this and after she had gone a ... On the day when they arrived they were driving caspers. They were all around the town looking for me. Well when I arrived at home they were not there anymore, everything wasn't in its position. They were looking even in the toilet. That is when I called Matthew. I said to him Matthew I want ... MR BOOYENS: And there were quite a few people there among others, Mr de Kock and some of your colleagues as well as Task Force people, people that you didn't know? CHAIRPERSON: Mr Visser, I have my own estimate on how long the KwaNdebele 9 is likely to run, but that's my personal view. I am really at the hands of the people who will be presenting evidence and putting questions after each applicant has presented his evidence-in-chief. Somerset East. The doctor didn't give me proper medicine. I think their aim was to let me die. When I came back from that doctor I became very sick. The station commander said that this is not a proper medicine for this person and if this person can die we will be in trouble. I was taken to ... Even then they said the people who shot was Tise just because Tise had the permission to carry the gun. But the thing was not like that, everything was quiet then up until today. I for one - I’m with my crippled son. I didn’t - he was not born like this, he was born as a normal child but now ... But when we spoke to Wisile Mafalan, I am sorry to mention names, the friend, the friend with whom he was, and he was supposed to be Dick's best man. He said to us when they left Dick's fiancee's home, there were people outside in cars and there is only one entrance from Ladysmith. So somewhere ... MS MALAZA: ... and we peeped through the windows and we saw Imbokhoto people surrounding the school. We just went out of the classrooms to have a look at what was happening and they got into the yard. Mr Chairman, the people subpoenaed are present today. That is Mr Andre Beetge, Mr Nick Deetliefs and Mr Adriaan Pieter van Niekerk as well as Captain Holmes. Mr Chairman, what I am going to say excludes Captain Holmes, it applies to the first three I have mentioned. |
