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people's warExplanation agreed that the firearms would be purchased in Maputo. The three persons was instructed that they should resist any arrest and should not voluntarily surrender the firearms even if it meant having to shoot and kill people in the process. The party left on the Wednesday before the incident ... CHAIRPERSON: You look pretty young. I thought you were 14, because people under the age of 18 do not appear before the Commission on their own. Reverend Xundu will swear you in. MRS MATHEBULA: It was in 1986, in May on the 12th. We were going to the cemetery. The proceeding was normal on our way to the cemetery. There was no problem at all. While we were at the cemetery the ceremony was already done and then we were told that the elderly people should go, and I ... It was on a Sunday, the Red Cross people came, they came to visit me and they asked the same question. They asked me how many bullets, the Red Cross people said they only saw seven wounds. I was taken back to the cell. The next day I was taken to court and I was charged for illegal possession ... DR ALLY: So you do not know if on this day that the police were actually looking for your son or that the people who shot him may have known that this was your son? ... him and he was eventually caught, killed and his body set on fire. Mbhele took no part in this. Mbhele in his evidence denied that he was aware that Dlangisa would in all likelihood be killed. He said he thought the community would hand Dlangisa over to the police. In the light of ... MR SIBEKO: According to the list and dates for today, this was the number of people but there are some other applicants here for other dates. CHAIRPERSON: Well I did not watch television this morning and I have not seen that report. The press that I have read seem to have reported the matter with some accuracy and the purpose, as I understand it of the agreement, it was an agreement yesterday, was to enable these people to be notified ... On our way back from a choral music, it was me and a friend of mine and his girlfriend. We were playing cards and when we decided to sleep the gang of people came. Amongst this gang I saw three people that I could identify. It was Moss, I do not know his surname, Mzwake Maziboko and Mokipe, I ... CHAIRPERSON: Well I think we're all in your hands. Is it likely to be anything that people would want other witnesses to deal with? MRS TIYA: Pardon me. Aga started to be a scholar at St. Patricks. He did his matric at Zingiza School. If I can remember very well about his political involvement the teacher from Zingiza came to report that he was arrested and detained. During that time there was a curfew but it was reported that ... MS CAMBANIS: Do you know whether people went onto the second and third floor of the building? MS MEJANE: Thank you. It was in 1985, it was terrible at Jansenville, there were a lot of fights. There were people from the clan name Matshaweni that were fighting against us at the time. MR RWEQANA: Andile Rweqana was my younger brother. When I came here at Pagamisa, I went to see them. I received a message through my sister saying, Andile went away a day before because he was called by Madodana and then he went to his house. Again she said Andile didn't come back but there was ... During the course of operations I acted as a combatant with comrade Robert McBride. Robert and I grew up together in the Wentworth area and we got to know each other well. As we grew up we became increasingly politicised. Our people in Wentworth and generally in South Africa were suffering. ... It is common knowledge, Mr Chairman, that the people who participated in Self Defence Units were ordinary members of the community who were not part of the leadership of the African National Congress and were often unaware of the decisions of the leadership. None of the applicants have disclosed any such act, omission or offence. On the contrary, pursuant to the enquiries made by this Committee in terms of Section 19, the applications as amplified in the letter quoted herein above, categorically state that "none of the people on its list had been ... The Applicant was not inside the hall when the shooting occurred and could not give evidence as to what happened there. What he had been told by others is clearly hearsay. Suffice to say, that the Applicant says he takes full responsibility for the actions of his comrades. He said that UNITRA ... MR MATJILA: In 1985 I met with Cosas members singing at school. It was the first time I supported them. I joined the Cosas organisation. They killed one boy in 1985. Things went on. In 1986, it was in December, we were attending a night vigil on 19th Avenue at Jingles Magoti's house. Whilst ... While schooling I didn’t have sleep at all because the police would come home - I didn’t know where he was sleeping because he didn’t sleep at home. But when I prepared myself for work he would come and prepare himself for school. I didn’t know what was happening because he wasn’t fond of ... |
