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people's warExplanation MR DE KOCK: Mr Chairperson, I wasn't there at that stage but I wouldn't have been surprised. Out of my experience, the wound was not such a nature that he would have died from it. We did go to the houses, we did get the detonators and the weapons, so there was no reason to attack this person ... CHAIRPERSON: We are now going to go on with the statements of those people who were involved in the Langa Massacre. I would like to make an announcement that from here we are going to move to the scene of the massacre as Commissioners, and there are arrangements made only for the victims so that ... You were also told at the time that he was somehow connected with the people who were accused in Victoria West of trying to poison the water supply. MS MOLAPO: I was a student at St Peter in Pimville. I was only 11 years old. When we got to school they told us that we are not going to do anything, no lessons today. We therefore left the school premises. We got home. There was some noise in Potchefstroom Road. We therefore left with my ... He still leaves next to me but at this time he is not around. He is the one who picked up Christopher ‘s shoe at Thabane. The people from Thabane should be my witness. I am very geatful for this, I don’t know whether this was going to be known public. I cannot know the police and the pupils cannot ... [Indistinct] Mr Mosotho to just try and speak a bit louder and try and speak right into this microphone so that your voice can be louder, can be amplified otherwise the people can’t hear you. So I am going to ask you to just speak a little bit louder, okay? Now when you woke up in the hospital in ... Thank you Chairperson if I may I then ask Ms Javens to speak to us now, do we need to move the microphone near her. Thank you Ms Javens, this is a story that is quite well known, so we’ll try not to put you through too much as we ask you questions. But your husband was one of the people who was ... Sir, as I understand you correctly, you only saw two people assaulting the deceased, am I right? Now are we to understand from this firstly, that there were experiments done on animals and in people, and in fact it was used in a combat situation, the incapacitant which was made up of, amongst other things, methaqualone? MR LEWIN: Mrs Masilela I'd like to thank you for coming and would like to welcome you to this hearing. While you were travelling this morning we did hear that there were some visitors from Germany but I don't think they travelled from Germany today so I think you must be the only person at this ... Good morning Mrs Joseph it’s just still morning, welcome and thank you. I know that you had to sit and wait for all the various other people until you could tell your own story. Please rise to take the oath. MR MOCHAWE: It was on the 19th October 1990. That day I woke up just fine. I left my place for work. On my way I saw people coming from the other direction - the opposite direction I was heading for. I was surprised, the group of people coming from the opposite, I was wondering what was ... MRS MTHINKHULU: On the 1st June 1986 I saw my younger boy coming. He is 12 years old. That boy was actually sent somewhere in one of the areas at Mangweni and then he said to his father there are people who are calling him. They are calling him in the passage and they want to know whether is he ... 8. Cooperating with members of Combat Security in securing the nearby reservoir against attacks. This also involved the harassment and assault on a number of people on the road and the eventual shooting and wounding of one Guduza Makhoba and Mduduzi. Thank you - thank you very much, that’s very helpful. I just - can you remember if you think back now did the police ever say why they were taking your brother or what did they accuse him of because he was obviously never tried - he was detained like so many other people but did they ever say ... MR SNYDERS: Mr Chairperson, I was treated for post-traumatic stress after I was released or resigned from the police and after this long period of time and I compiled my application, it may be that some of the details I cannot recall or may be confusing some of them and also those people who were ... MRS TEMA: On the death of Simon Mashigoane un 1992, he died in Manganeng on the 8th of the eighth of the eighth. An Anc man came to me to inform me about Simon's death and told me that he died in Manganeng. I told them that we did not know for a long time where the guy was and we saw him for the ... CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. MR SIMELANE: Let me start off with the first one. As I was a member of the SDU we were divided into cells and sometimes there would be 10 to 15 people within a cell and each cell had a commander and there was an area commander as well as a central commander. CHAIRPERSON: The next witness, could those people who are leaving please keep as quiet as possible. |
