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people's warExplanation MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, he along with a number of other persons who were in the vicinity of this house in this street but did not reside there or have any business there or any people to visit there, all these persons were collected and detained. And as far as I can recall 11 to 12 of them were ... MR MMAKOU:: I wasn't at home by then, I was at work. My son and daughter came to tell that they received a message from Kanya House, telling them that Monageng has been killed by a bomb that blasted in Manzini in Swaziland and then I returned home with them and then I contacted Kanya House and I ... MR VERMEULEN: As far as I can recall there were three people MR VISSER: Can you today recall any name that you specifically collected information about, that was promoted to Special Forces and that was one of the people that was killed or injured in this action? REV XUNDU: Did you perhaps inquire who the Ama-Afrika people were? MR NGXONGO: I was in Sipiwe's company and he was going to introduce me to Mrs Umbiasi. She was supposed to know that I was one of the people who were working with Sipiwe in Durban South Region where Sipiwe was the head or the commander. MR KHUMALO: I will say that at that time, I was staying at the offices in Ulundi. Mhlanduna arrived with others and he asked if there are people, or whether there were people who wanted to go to Claremont to Mr Yamile's house and guard there because the situation was quite bad. MR KHWEZA: You say Bobbie was with two other people. Do you know who were they? MR MOGAPI: Mr Viljoen is not right when he says many people were armed. When we arrived, it was - it was a lot of people, it was chaotic and the taking of the money happened in a very short time. I think he thought there might have been many people, yet it was only one person who had a firearm. DR BORAINE: The next witness to appear before the Commission is Cornish Mmeko Makhanya and I would be grateful if he would come forward. Mr Makanya thank you very much for coming, you've had a long wait as well and we have had to rearrange the programme because of different people coming at ... MR MANTHATA: Ngoako Ramalepe was an SRC president at Motcheche College of Education in 1985. One day in the area of Gabane where there was a youth march organized by the youth in Gabane. At the end of the march during that day, the policemen appeared and they came to approach the people who were ... JUDGE DE JAGER: Why do you say he practised a bad medicine, what did he do that was so bad? Because some people are doing good things, some bad, what did he do that you considered to be bad medicine tradition? MR BOOYENS: Did you then give the radio signal that the people were being led in? CHAIRPERSON: Before we commence this morning, gentlemen, there are one or two matters that I would like to deal with and I would like to make it clear, we haven't pre-judged the issues in any way, but have you applied your minds to the question of the real relevance, as to whether somebody who is ... MR PETENI: Yes, I participated because what was important there, or what I knew about that day, was not the fact that -I knew the main purpose of my being there in that meeting that was called by Gen Nqoya, the reason why I went to that meeting is that I knew that we had to remove Brig Gqozo from ... I would like all the people who gave evidence this morning to stand up so that we can thank all of them. MR MASINA: We fixed an appointment with people who were based in Botswana. We sent our agent recruiter to whom we had given a letter to take to the people in Botswana. He came back with a written response giving us the go ahead in the elimination of Mr Lukhele. ... they were continuing with normal classes. So when we arrived at Imakilata some of the people within the group were shouting obscene things towards the nuns and so on and Julian and I decided to leave. On our way back, it was in Bats Road, they were erecting barricades and someone who ... MR DU TOIT: Mr Chairperson, I would just like to confirm the following, with explosives there are no guarantees, it's always a very unsafe or dangerous set-up, but depending on the explosives and the way in which it is opened, one can have a relatively clear anticipation of what could happen. If ... (ii) Whether the fact that the arsonists later discovered that there were people in residence is responsible for the lacuna in the information admitted; |
