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people's warExplanation CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. Sir, as I understand you correctly, you only saw two people assaulting the deceased, am I right? Now are we to understand from this firstly, that there were experiments done on animals and in people, and in fact it was used in a combat situation, the incapacitant which was made up of, amongst other things, methaqualone? I was just a laughing matter. People were just laughing at me. At school I cannot participate as much as I would like to. I fail all the time. I repeat every standard five times. CHAIRPERSON: Which identified him as being at the scene and which suggested that he actually threw the bomb that caused the explosion, that led to one person being killed and several other people suffering injuries? MR SWART: Chairperson, I am not certain of what he knew. As far as I understood from Warrant Officer Nortje, he was a threat to the people and we had to eliminate him. MR MNGUNI: They had set the store alight and previously there was nothing then they started. That was when things started. Turmoil. People were not fighting. MR MBULI: Yes, Sir, in "expantiating" on this one, as I've earlier mentioned that no, as a unit, the thing which I came with this name, it was because of Mr van der Eck appeared on the TV, that no he wants to see the people who were involved in the laying of the mines. I didn't know that no, Mr ... With regard to the incident which took place at Mazabekweni, we are of the opinion that there is insufficient evidence to link the Applicant to the killings which he heard off over the radio. There is no evidence that the persons killed included the two people who shot at the Applicant and his ... CHAIRPERSON: We are now going to call on Mr Sandi to call people. CHAIRPERSON: The defensive one would have been - you were of the opinion that they would have killed the people handling them? MRS TEMA: On the death of Simon Mashigoane un 1992, he died in Manganeng on the 8th of the eighth of the eighth. An Anc man came to me to inform me about Simon's death and told me that he died in Manganeng. I told them that we did not know for a long time where the guy was and we saw him for the ... As we were guarding the township and we were watching the people who pretended to be politicians, yet they were criminals, so we tried to protect the neighbours, the community against such people. We also advised the people to avoid travelling during the night, because the police used to fire ... The service started at two o' clock. When a speaker from the Mandela Release Campaign was on the floor, Mr Nhonhonho, who was in command of the police, Ciskeian Police at that time, addressed us saying that he knows that the youth was very strong. He asked the people to stop the youth not to ... Thank you very much. There is more room, but I think the people outside, Thembeka if you could just tell the people outside there is more room and as soon as the witness is done with her testimony, they can be invited in, but while someone is giving testimony I don't think it is proper for people ... We adjourned the matter yesterday because we were informed that they had been told the matter would be heard today and we felt it wrong to proceed in their absence. They are not here today. The representatives of the TRC have gone to Botshabelo to find them and have been able to make contact ... They realised that people used to come and sit there and they suspected that the petrol bombs have been DR BORAINE: Can you tell me, was there anyone else in the street where you were walking along 12th Avenue near 41, were you alone or were there other young people or anybody there? MRS MTHINKHULU: On the 1st June 1986 I saw my younger boy coming. He is 12 years old. That boy was actually sent somewhere in one of the areas at Mangweni and then he said to his father there are people who are calling him. They are calling him in the passage and they want to know whether is he ... PROF MEIRING: Mrs Radebe thank you for coming, for relating your story and what happened to the young people you are going to tell us about. It all started on the night of the 24th of January 1992. Will you please tell us in your words what happened on that day and in the days that followed upon ... |