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people's warExplanation MR DU RANDT: After the Council Meeting I did go into the hall where the prayer hour had been held where my wife was still chatting to some people. CHAIRPERSON: We are now going to go on with the statements of those people who were involved in the Langa Massacre. I would like to make an announcement that from here we are going to move to the scene of the massacre as Commissioners, and there are arrangements made only for the victims so that ... MR DE KOCK: Mr Chairperson, I wasn't there at that stage but I wouldn't have been surprised. Out of my experience, the wound was not such a nature that he would have died from it. We did go to the houses, we did get the detonators and the weapons, so there was no reason to attack this person ... MR KRUGER: I was definitely not the first to shoot. To my right were people who started MR MAMMBURU: I was arrested on the same day. The van took us to the deceased's kraal and we saw a big truck, there were other people on top of the roof who were just removing the zinc and stuff like that. 1. That the offence to rob weapons from the deceased was associated with a political objective. That the robbery of the other items were for personal gain. The act, however, doesn’t provide for amnesty on a portion of a charge where all the items were grouped together under one charge and the ... MS MOLAPO: I was a student at St Peter in Pimville. I was only 11 years old. When we got to school they told us that we are not going to do anything, no lessons today. We therefore left the school premises. We got home. There was some noise in Potchefstroom Road. We therefore left with my ... that was emanating from King Williamstown, Victoria grounds. We were going to Bisho. It was at about 11 o'clock. We went up using the main road towards King Williamstown to Bisho. On the way to King Williamstown on the sides there were police and soldiers of the Republic of South Africa. I ... He still leaves next to me but at this time he is not around. He is the one who picked up Christopher ‘s shoe at Thabane. The people from Thabane should be my witness. I am very geatful for this, I don’t know whether this was going to be known public. I cannot know the police and the pupils cannot ... CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. We spent some time there trying to gather the weapons and we explained certain things or discussed certain things with other people. After that our car came to pick us up to take us back home where we had to take the weapons to. people whom I sing together with at the church, they sought out myself with one old man, Mr Mashlala. The senior policeman, Masrumure, asked who Shiware was, and I said it was I, and the other policemen said he must let them arrest me. They did so and started hitting me and put me inside the ... The committee finds it difficult not to accept that the applicant's act, endorsed by the group of people, was for political reasons. DR RANDERA: Can I ask again is Beryl Harmse here? No. I would like to then call Nomasonto Kgalema. Can I please ask individuals who are taking photographs, not to use their flash cameras as people are telling stories. Thank you very much. I want to welcome a number of groupings who are here ... MR NDZUMO: I think the cause of his death was the misunderstanding at his work place. He didn't - he was very politically minded at those times. He was really complaining about other people. He was really complaining about other people in authority who were in prisons those days. It seemed as if ... MR BERGER: That was not always the case. Alright. Now in fact, while we're on page 35, we can deal with the command structure of Kletshwayo, which you have listed the people involved there at the top of page 35. You see that? The paragraph which reads He, however, remembers that in some instances the people laid charges and dockets were opened. These dockets have since been destroyed. He stated that when a docket was opened against a member of the police force it would go to a certain section where there was a retired Brigadier. He ... DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... MR DU PLESSIS: Mr Chairman we'll use Mr Cornelius's place. I beg leave to call Hennie Kotze. Mr Chairman, I beg leave to call Hennie also known by certain Russian people as Ginger Kotze, Mr Chairman. DR RANDERA: Were there any other people who were affected in this way, who had also been exposed to the same tear gas? |
