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people's warExplanation DR RANDERA:: Chairperson, if you will, we also have other people from different areas and I want to particularly welcome some of the people who actually appeared at other hearings, Mrs Bangeni from Soweto, the mother of Bheki Bangeni, and Duma from Sharpeville, one of the Sharpeville six people ... MR MASINA: We fixed an appointment with people who were based in Botswana. We sent our agent recruiter to whom we had given a letter to take to the people in Botswana. He came back with a written response giving us the go ahead in the elimination of Mr Lukhele. MR HATTINGH: Were there no people in the houses or buildings who might have seen him? MR LEWIN: Mrs Masilela I'd like to thank you for coming and would like to welcome you to this hearing. While you were travelling this morning we did hear that there were some visitors from Germany but I don't think they travelled from Germany today so I think you must be the only person at this ... (ii) Whether the fact that the arsonists later discovered that there were people in residence is responsible for the lacuna in the information admitted; mourning or during mourning. Then I asked as to when my father was going to be buried because I knew that if a person died he was supposed to be buried and my mother told me that we were still going to look for my father's corpse. On the following Friday my mother told me that we should go to my ... MR KHWEZA: You say Bobbie was with two other people. Do you know who were they? MR KHUMALO: I will say that at that time, I was staying at the offices in Ulundi. Mhlanduna arrived with others and he asked if there are people, or whether there were people who wanted to go to Claremont to Mr Yamile's house and guard there because the situation was quite bad. Now are we to understand from this firstly, that there were experiments done on animals and in people, and in fact it was used in a combat situation, the incapacitant which was made up of, amongst other things, methaqualone? Thank you - thank you very much, that’s very helpful. I just - can you remember if you think back now did the police ever say why they were taking your brother or what did they accuse him of because he was obviously never tried - he was detained like so many other people but did they ever say ... CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. Sir, as I understand you correctly, you only saw two people assaulting the deceased, am I right? "We noticed certain white people in civilian clothes assaulting some black street hawkers with sjambocks." Some time between 1990 and 1991 the Applicant was transferred by his superiors to Bloemfontein where they operated from a farm outside the city. He states that the Security Police and askaris used that farm as an "office base". Activists would be taken there for torture and questioning. One of ... MR SNYDERS: Mr Chairperson, I was treated for post-traumatic stress after I was released or resigned from the police and after this long period of time and I compiled my application, it may be that some of the details I cannot recall or may be confusing some of them and also those people who were ... At this meeting we made the decision that the facility of Serache must be attacked by the Defence Force and that the people would be killed. forgiven him. This is the kind of life that I am now leading. My mom is here with me and she is also sick. She witnessed the whole thing as I was in the hospital. That is at Sebokeng Hospital. And she was running up and down. We have been to doctors and she said with the grace of God you will ... DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... I asked for his clothes which they wouldn't give to me. I then went home. Then I told people there that they had told me when to have his funeral. JUDGE DE JAGER: Why do you say he practised a bad medicine, what did he do that was so bad? Because some people are doing good things, some bad, what did he do that you considered to be bad medicine tradition? |
