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people's warExplanation MR NEL: Now if we may move on to paragraph 10. Immediately you say there that originally you were under the impression that four people were killed, but having heard the evidence and having read the other applications, you realised that only three members, or three people were in fact killed in ... ... they were continuing with normal classes. So when we arrived at Imakilata some of the people within the group were shouting obscene things towards the nuns and so on and Julian and I decided to leave. On our way back, it was in Bats Road, they were erecting barricades and someone who ... On the second week of my stay I just had a gut feeling that I should not run my usual road work because I was also doing road work. Then during the week my uncle came. He had come to tell us bad news, that my brother had died and I wanted to find out as to what had happened. He told me that ... ADV DE JAGER: Ja, perhaps if he could listen before he starts giving evidence. I don't know whether it's been explained to him, if he didn't commit any offence and if he wouldn't admit that he associated himself with the commission of an offence, he can't get amnesty because we can only give ... COORDINATOR: This morning the third and last day of the hearing in Cradock I am going to read the list of people who are going to be here today in the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. I'm going to read this list as the people are going to be up here before you. I just want to clarify that ... ... regards to my child. She should be cared for. What kind of help can she be offered in this life? And the people who shot at her should come forward and they should tell us the reasons why they shot at my daughter and maybe I will have peace. I will stop there. Thank ... forgiven him. This is the kind of life that I am now leading. My mom is here with me and she is also sick. She witnessed the whole thing as I was in the hospital. That is at Sebokeng Hospital. And she was running up and down. We have been to doctors and she said with the grace of God you will ... I asked for his clothes which they wouldn't give to me. I then went home. Then I told people there that they had told me when to have his funeral. DR RANDERA: Maybe, whilst we’re deciding people can just take a stand up and ...... CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. I was just a laughing matter. People were just laughing at me. At school I cannot participate as much as I would like to. I fail all the time. I repeat every standard five times. MS MOLAPO: I was a student at St Peter in Pimville. I was only 11 years old. When we got to school they told us that we are not going to do anything, no lessons today. We therefore left the school premises. We got home. There was some noise in Potchefstroom Road. We therefore left with my ... DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... CHAIRPERSON: The next witness, could those people who are leaving please keep as quiet as possible. MR NEL: No, the names stated in my application are the people that I do remember. There were other people as well, as I've stated in number 5. I think there were more people there, but I can't remember who they were. MR SIMELANE: Let me start off with the first one. As I was a member of the SDU we were divided into cells and sometimes there would be 10 to 15 people within a cell and each cell had a commander and there was an area commander as well as a central commander. CHAIRPERSON: Before we commence this morning, gentlemen, there are one or two matters that I would like to deal with and I would like to make it clear, we haven't pre-judged the issues in any way, but have you applied your minds to the question of the real relevance, as to whether somebody who is ... MR MANTHATA: Ngoako Ramalepe was an SRC president at Motcheche College of Education in 1985. One day in the area of Gabane where there was a youth march organized by the youth in Gabane. At the end of the march during that day, the policemen appeared and they came to approach the people who were ... I would like all the people who gave evidence this morning to stand up so that we can thank all of them. MR MOGAPI: Mr Viljoen is not right when he says many people were armed. When we arrived, it was - it was a lot of people, it was chaotic and the taking of the money happened in a very short time. I think he thought there might have been many people, yet it was only one person who had a firearm. |
