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people's warExplanation CHAIRPERSON: The next witness, could those people who are leaving please keep as quiet as possible. CHAIRPERSON: Now I don't know if you want everybody else to return their present bundles to you. I don't think the people who are going to prepare affidavits and other documents, can do so, I think they will need to keep them, but we have returned ours - well my Members of my Committee have. Okay. forgiven him. This is the kind of life that I am now leading. My mom is here with me and she is also sick. She witnessed the whole thing as I was in the hospital. That is at Sebokeng Hospital. And she was running up and down. We have been to doctors and she said with the grace of God you will ... DR RANDERA: I would like to say that there are people here today who have come to make statements. If there are, please if you can go through that entrance at any time during the day of over the next three days. Statement takers are present and will be able to take your statements today and over ... MRS MTHINKHULU: On the 1st June 1986 I saw my younger boy coming. He is 12 years old. That boy was actually sent somewhere in one of the areas at Mangweni and then he said to his father there are people who are calling him. They are calling him in the passage and they want to know whether is he ... MR MOCHAWE: It was on the 19th October 1990. That day I woke up just fine. I left my place for work. On my way I saw people coming from the other direction - the opposite direction I was heading for. I was surprised, the group of people coming from the opposite, I was wondering what was ... With regard to the incident which took place at Mazabekweni, we are of the opinion that there is insufficient evidence to link the Applicant to the killings which he heard off over the radio. There is no evidence that the persons killed included the two people who shot at the Applicant and his ... Thank you very much. There is more room, but I think the people outside, Thembeka if you could just tell the people outside there is more room and as soon as the witness is done with her testimony, they can be invited in, but while someone is giving testimony I don't think it is proper for people ... We adjourned the matter yesterday because we were informed that they had been told the matter would be heard today and we felt it wrong to proceed in their absence. They are not here today. The representatives of the TRC have gone to Botshabelo to find them and have been able to make contact ... CHAIRPERSON: We are now going to call on Mr Sandi to call people. MR MBULI: Yes, Sir, in "expantiating" on this one, as I've earlier mentioned that no, as a unit, the thing which I came with this name, it was because of Mr van der Eck appeared on the TV, that no he wants to see the people who were involved in the laying of the mines. I didn't know that no, Mr ... took a hosepipe and they poured water. Then in that foam they put us in that foam and they came with shamboks. We were beaten. Yes, they really assaulted us. Yes, they assaulted us. Skosane tried to speak. They said this old man what does he want here? Then Makawe, they said this little ... The service started at two o' clock. When a speaker from the Mandela Release Campaign was on the floor, Mr Nhonhonho, who was in command of the police, Ciskeian Police at that time, addressed us saying that he knows that the youth was very strong. He asked the people to stop the youth not to ... MR MNGUNI: They had set the store alight and previously there was nothing then they started. That was when things started. Turmoil. People were not fighting. MR SIZANI: Mr Chairperson, I was accused by our headman, Mr Malangeni Makapela, he accused me of burning down his home. On that day I was at home. I heard that the house was being burnt down. I saw flames in that house. My uncle said that I must stay at home, because people were gathering ... ... as JJ. We took him to Fountain Police Station. We took him to one of the rooms. It was myself, Adjutant Killian, Sgt Mamone and Const Motala. Warrant Officer questioned JJ or Pappi, why didn't he contact him again to bring information. Pappi responded by saying he doesn't want to be an ... MR SWART: Chairperson, I am not certain of what he knew. As far as I understood from Warrant Officer Nortje, he was a threat to the people and we had to eliminate him. CHAIRPERSON: Which identified him as being at the scene and which suggested that he actually threw the bomb that caused the explosion, that led to one person being killed and several other people suffering injuries? After that, people used to come and pray for us at home, and the police would come and they would ask the people to go away - not to pray for us. They gave us a date for the funeral and we didn’t want to bury my son on that day, but we were forced by the police to do that. After that there was ... DR BORAINE: Can you tell me, was there anyone else in the street where you were walking along 12th Avenue near 41, were you alone or were there other young people or anybody there? |
