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people's warExplanation see anything. There were other four people who actually took me home. MR WILLIAMS: Now Mr Mbelo, I want to ask you, before you filled in your application for amnesty did you discuss this particular incident with any of the people that were involved in this incident? 1. That the offence to rob weapons from the deceased was associated with a political objective. That the robbery of the other items were for personal gain. The act, however, doesn’t provide for amnesty on a portion of a charge where all the items were grouped together under one charge and the ... MR SMIT: And how many people were you when you went to rob the Ormonde police station? Last year was the first time I heard about a young boy. His name was Stompie Mokesi Siphe. He was 13 years old. He had an opinion, he fought for it and in doing so lost his life. He was against racism and wanted to be equal. That really made me think. He was so young, but at such a young age ... REV XUNDU: Did you perhaps inquire who the Ama-Afrika people were? MR MIYA: We said we were going to accompany him and show him a shortcut towards Kweseni. A group of people appeared, they searched him and he was in possession of an IFP membership card. They took him with and we went back. CHAIRPERSON: Would it be your submission therefore that though the order was for the killing of Mr Tiledi, that your client should have foreseen the possible injury or even death of the people who were inside the shop, that being Mimi Matsani and Boy Mokoena? CHAIRPERSON: He told you to consider the establishment of an arms cache so that this would serve as a reason to attack people or property in Botswana? When the deceased walked out the meeting broke down in chaos as all the people there were shouting that she must be killed for refusing to leave the village. The meeting elected certain people to carry out the killing. These were David Nkoma, L. Sekgobela, Mpoya Erick Sekgobela and the Applicant. ... After about three or four days, I do not remember clearly, my wife was going to work. She usually would leave earlier than me. She used a taxi. My wife left me at home, going to work. Unfortunately that day, that taxi would not let her get in. She was left behind. She then walked. People ... MR DU RANDT: After the Council Meeting I did go into the hall where the prayer hour had been held where my wife was still chatting to some people. In 1991 again the, my mother was barred from entering. The case, well I might not say the, the right name. Mr Ntai was responsible for the case. After that we were told that all the people involved with the victims were seen and we would like to address this to the mother that we are not going ... ... receiving the death sentence. And we can’t know that, but maybe that was part of his objective in the evidence that he did give. And perhaps afterwards I could take a little more to Ms Lucas about what advocate Michael Donen told me about this ... At the time of the assassination of Hani, they were already investigating the presence of "suspicious" white people in the nearby holiday resort, whom they say they suspected of being part of the right wing organisations. According to them they based their suspicion on information received from ... During 1988, the Applicant and Riley together with others embarked on throwing black commuters from the trains in the Gauteng area. It was explained to him by Riley that the exercise was to fuel tensions between the members of the IFP and the African National Congress (ANC). The Applicant ... MS MANYI: No, but one was a white policemen from Le Granse. Then they asked whether we were the people related to Vuyani and we said yes. MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, he along with a number of other persons who were in the vicinity of this house in this street but did not reside there or have any business there or any people to visit there, all these persons were collected and detained. And as far as I can recall 11 to 12 of them were ... MR VISSER: Can you today recall any name that you specifically collected information about, that was promoted to Special Forces and that was one of the people that was killed or injured in this action? CHAIRPERSON: Right, you were amongst the people who took him to the offices at Mkwaie and as you have just stated you assaulted him, what else happened whilst you were still there or what happened in your presence? |
