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self-protection units (SPUs)Explanation Showing 221 to 240 of 808 First Page•Previous Page 8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 Next Page•Last PageCROSS-EXAMINATION BY MS THABETHE: On paragraph 2 of your supplementary affidavit you talk about the material which was going to be used in home made weapons for Self Defence Units. How were you going to defend yourselves? Sorry, let me start here. Who was going to make these home made weapons? MR SHAIK: No, I wouldn't say that it was part of the ANC policy, as per se. I would say that in that instance I perceived that the Self Defence Units given the situation that existed in townships at the time, were using those weapons to defend themselves against Inkatha led or Inkatha orientated ... ... these Street Committees were put on the alert and the matters were closely monitored. It is during this period that the residents of the aforesaid units bona fide believed that the "Killer Boys" were agents of the Security Forces. This belief was further reinforced by the fact that although the ... MR MGXAJI: You agree with me that the men who were with Mr Mapipa in the van, were not APLA members, nor Third Force Units as Mzwandile advised you, do you agree with me that those people had no reason to be shot at by you? There was no political reason to be shot at by you? What do you say to ... ... raised in the evidence must be weighed against the following. It must be born in mind, according to Thwala, Simelane was in one of his units and apparently an important one at that, her being the leader of the Vaal One Cell, because that certainly is the impression that his evidence ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, it's going to be very difficult, but I think it would be in the region of perhaps 80, and perhaps even more. It's a very rough estimate. We later divided and some of these Askaris went to East London and Durban, where they also formed units. MR HATTINGH: And you have already testified in this document previously, that you as the Commander of Vlakplaas from time to time had to return to Head Office in order to report about the activities of your units there and the information that you had obtained there. Several weeks later that same month I was fetched from my house by some white detective from Murder and Robbery Units and taken to Bishop Lavis police station. At Bishop Lavis police station I was shown several photographs of persons who had been brutally shot. I informed the officers that I ... weapon stockpiling, because she acted in a co-ordinating capacity between the externally trained terrorists and locally or internally trained combat units. It was decided to infiltrate her and her structure of collaborators and co-operators by means of members of C1 who at that stage were ... MR LAMEY: Would it be correct to say that it would be unsafe to interview, to get information from informers at the Police Units, at Soweto Security Branch and so on? MR NAUDE: He told us that because of the political situation in South Africa, the necessity had arisen that we be divided to SAP units and we had to act in support of the Northern Transvaal Commando and the Wits Commando. I was devolved to the Wits Commando. ADV GCABASHE: With regard to other Intelligence services operating in Swaziland, Military Intelligence or any other units from the PWV area, who were you in contact with? Who did you co-ordinate your activities with? MR DU PLESSIS: Right. Now Capt Bokaba, you have heard the evidence of Col Loots pertaining to the units of the security branch, Unit A, B, C, D and E. Do you agree with that evidence? offensive inside South Africa. This is the urgent call that we make to the masses of our people to all democratic formations and to all members and units of the ANC and uMkhonto weSizwe. Relying on our strength through action, we will frustrate the scheme of the enemy of the peoples of Africa ... MR WANGA: No we don't know how he used the money but as I've already said we knew that there were other units in other places that needed support, that needed food, so we were not aware or we didn't know whether he did or not but we knew there were people who were needing support. MR ROSSOUW: And am I correct in saying that one would have expected this to be among persons who were members of operational units that this is where such terminology would be applied? MR HATTINGH: Mr Van Zyl, I did not cross-examine you about transactions that you had with other units of the South African Police and you realised this, but my cross-examination of you was about the payment that you had for information that you had given to Vlakplaas. "As I was regularly meeting with my instructor, the Chief-of-Staff of the Self Defence Units in the Northern Free State, a well trained cadre of MK who had his military training from abroad and recruited me to be involved in the mission of the SDUs." (Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Swaziland, Tansania, UK, Zambia and Zimbabwe Representatives of the NAT Regional Directorate of the Internal Units or Operatives Commanders of MK training camps, Samafco, and detention/rehabilitation centers (Quadro) ... MR BAKER: Mr Chairman, yes, Capt Botha was in charge of Intelligence Units, the MK Intelligence Unit. This operation was basically his, but the overall deployment of the greater team if I can call it as such, actually fell under Col Taylor. I had been there to find out about the deployment of ... |