self-protection units (SPUs)

MR WILLIAMSON: Well I don't know whether it wouldn't have included, Mr Chairman, because if one of the intelligence gathering units somewhere was doing his job and something happened in Swaziland or Lesotho or wherever it was and some ANC people were killed, and a source reported that being, even ...

MR FERNANDEZ: At C-Section we operated in two units. The one was the Defectors' Section and the other was the Investigating Team. Both these sections fell beneath the command of Capt Cloete.

MR LAX: You spoke about in the hostel you were divided up into units when you said that the people in your unit were Zwele and - I can't remember who the other person was - Buthelezi?

... and as the struggle developed, in many instances there was no way in which we could keep track of the activities of individual operatives and units in the country and that they carried out actions which we did not know about which they did not report and so it is quite possible yes, what ...

MR MFALAPITSA: yes, because I was in charge of logistics for these military units and in charge of ordinance, their weaponry, so I used to go between them and the officials, so anything that was to come from the officials to them, or from them to the officials, was conveyed by me, or through me.

MR MGXAJI: You agree with me that the men who were with Mr Mapipa in the van, were not APLA members, nor Third Force Units as Mzwandile advised you, do you agree with me that those people had no reason to be shot at by you? There was no political reason to be shot at by you? What do you say to ...

MR RAMMUSI: Political as well as military units.

Mr Xundu, I notice that at paragraph 8, immediately before the one you are on at the moment, you say that units were only formed for specific operations. Was a specific unit set up for this operation? Would you like to tell us about that?

MR BAKER: No Mr Chairman, this was done by specialised units within the Security Branch.

"At all relevant times to date, since January 1 1974, I was a member of the Permanent Force and an officer involved with various units of the SANDF."

... these Street Committees were put on the alert and the matters were closely monitored. It is during this period that the residents of the aforesaid units bona fide believed that the "Killer Boys" were agents of the Security Forces. This belief was further reinforced by the fact that although the ...

MR BERGER: Why is there not a mention in your statement at 210(H) to (I), not a word about the self defence units, why is that?

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MS THABETHE: On paragraph 2 of your supplementary affidavit you talk about the material which was going to be used in home made weapons for Self Defence Units. How were you going to defend yourselves? Sorry, let me start here. Who was going to make these home made weapons?

MR BLACK: You say that you've always supported the African National Congress and in 1986 you became an active member of the self-defence units at Secunda?

MR HATTINGH: Can you tell the Committee, apart from the applicants whose names appear in the documents, were there any other members of police units who were involved in this incident?

4.    The supplying of ammunition stored at Vlakplaas to other units of the South African Police during the period that the Applicant was stationed at Vlakplaas;

He pointed out that he was very impress with the reservations that we had had on the document For the Sake of Our Lives, that is the document that deals with the establishment of community based Self Defence Units.

MR DU PLESSIS: Right. Now Capt Bokaba, you have heard the evidence of Col Loots pertaining to the units of the security branch, Unit A, B, C, D and E. Do you agree with that evidence?

"red Langley from a certain person in one of the Mdantsane units and we drove to Fort Hare where we took arms and proceeded to Fort Beaufort but when we arrived the hotel was closed and we came back and dropped the arms at Nxlelo location in Alice. We were a unit of three this time, it was myself ...

MR BELLINGAN: If I understand the Chairperson correctly, other Units were used for their own operations?