Vlakplaas

Amnesty is accordingly hereby GRANTED to the Applicant in respect of all offences directly resulting from the destruction of documents at Vlakplaas during the term of office of the Harms Commission of Inquiry.

MR VAN DER MERWE: During this incident you were a member of Vlakplaas and you fell under the commander of the Commander, Mr Eugene de Kock.

MR BOOYENS: On page 248, is it correct to say that right from the outset, you were at Vlakplaas?

MR HATTINGH: And this is set out in the supplementary affidavit with regard to Vlakplaas and there you deal comprehensively with that discretion?

MR ROSSOUW: Mr Willemse, when this incident took place, were you stationed at Vlakplaas?

MR MOGOAI: He was Sectional Commander in Vlakplaas. We left Vlakplaas and we were deployed in Northern Province, where we were supposed to work there and trace members of MK. On a particular day we were called, Capt Vermeulen told us - it was myself, W/O Letsatsi and Mfalapitsa, that we should go ...

... unpleasant.  He did say that he was told later, after Mlangeni's death, that the package they had sent had exploded.  Although he then realised Vlakplaas was responsible for the death he did not say ...

Mr Ras, in July 1989, you were a Warrant Officer stationed at the C1 Unit in Vlakplaas, is that correct?

CHAIRPERSON: Well we started with Mr de Kock referring to his volume on Vlakplaas, which is what, 150 pages.

MR LAX: C10, just for your information, was Vlakplaas.

a farm known as Vlakplaas, a so-called anti-terrorist unit?

CHAIRPERSON: What was the work that Vlakplaas was doing at the time?

MR LAMEY: You see the reason why I ask you, there must have been a good reason why Vlakplaas was involved, because if the people were not armed, or if you never thought that the people would be armed, you could have done it yourself, is that not so?

MR VISSER: And C Section had, amongst others, incorporated in it C1 and that was Vlakplaas?

      3.    The Committee finds that no offence for which amnesty can be granted has been disclosed in respect of the acts involving the transportation of arms from Namibia to Vlakplaas or from Vlakplaas to the Security Branch in Natal.

MR CORNELIUS: At the time of this incident you were attached to the section which was commonly known as Vlakplaas, C Section under the command of Colonel Eugene de Kock, one of the applicants in this matter, is that correct?

MR LAMEY: At this stage you were a member of Vlakplaas, under the command of Mr de Kock.

MR HUGO: Then during cross-examination it was also put to you that you were also involved in an operation in Swaziland where a Mr McFadden and Nyanda were killed and that this was also a part of a Vlakplaas operation of which you were part.

EXAMINATION BY MR LAMEY: Mr Nortje, you also applied for amnesty for various incidents in which you were involved as a member of Vlakplaas. Some of them have already been heard by the Committee, is that correct?

MR RAUTENBACH: At that stage Mr Visser, did you have knowledge of the existence of Vlakplaas, is that correct?