Vlakplaas

RE-EXAMINATION BY MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. Mr Tshabalala, it has been put to you in cross-examination that you in fact didn't receive a very good salary at Vlakplaas and that it would have in fact benefited you to in fact kill Ndondo, rather than arrest him as was the original purpose.

MR BOOYENS: On page 248, is it correct to say that right from the outset, you were at Vlakplaas?

MR VAN DER MERWE: During this incident you were a member of Vlakplaas and you fell under the commander of the Commander, Mr Eugene de Kock.

MR ROSSOUW: Mr Willemse, when this incident took place, were you stationed at Vlakplaas?

MR HATTINGH: And this is set out in the supplementary affidavit with regard to Vlakplaas and there you deal comprehensively with that discretion?

MR MOGOAI: He was Sectional Commander in Vlakplaas. We left Vlakplaas and we were deployed in Northern Province, where we were supposed to work there and trace members of MK. On a particular day we were called, Capt Vermeulen told us - it was myself, W/O Letsatsi and Mfalapitsa, that we should go ...

Mr Ras, in July 1989, you were a Warrant Officer stationed at the C1 Unit in Vlakplaas, is that correct?

      3.    The Committee finds that no offence for which amnesty can be granted has been disclosed in respect of the acts involving the transportation of arms from Namibia to Vlakplaas or from Vlakplaas to the Security Branch in Natal.

MR LAX: C10, just for your information, was Vlakplaas.

CHAIRPERSON: Well we started with Mr de Kock referring to his volume on Vlakplaas, which is what, 150 pages.

MR VISSER: And C Section had, amongst others, incorporated in it C1 and that was Vlakplaas?

MR LAMEY: You see the reason why I ask you, there must have been a good reason why Vlakplaas was involved, because if the people were not armed, or if you never thought that the people would be armed, you could have done it yourself, is that not so?

a farm known as Vlakplaas, a so-called anti-terrorist unit?

CHAIRPERSON: What was the work that Vlakplaas was doing at the time?

... He did say that he was told later, after Mlangeni's death, that the package they had sent had exploded.  Although he then realised Vlakplaas was responsible for the death he did not say ...

... we suggest that you give him R50 000 for it, and R50 000 would then be approved and the money would then instead be divided amongst the members of Vlakplaas, as it so happened in some instances. I am only using this as an example Mr Chairman. May I refer you in this regard to that part of the ...

... involvement in the infiltration of ANC into the Northern Natal platteland, the caching of arms and planned attacks.  De Kock, as head of Vlakplaas at the time, had knowledge of these activities from security reports emanating from Northern Natal and Eastern Transvaal and had ...

MR RAUTENBACH: At that stage Mr Visser, did you have knowledge of the existence of Vlakplaas, is that correct?

MR BOSCH: The camera was purchased by the Police, we used it at Vlakplaas. It wasn't specifically purchased for this particular operation, we had it beforehand.

MR HUGO: Then during cross-examination it was also put to you that you were also involved in an operation in Swaziland where a Mr McFadden and Nyanda were killed and that this was also a part of a Vlakplaas operation of which you were part.