Vlakplaas

RE-EXAMINATION BY MR KNIGHT: Thank you Mr Chairman. Mr Tshabalala, it has been put to you in cross-examination that you in fact didn't receive a very good salary at Vlakplaas and that it would have in fact benefited you to in fact kill Ndondo, rather than arrest him as was the original purpose.

MR MOGOAI: He was Sectional Commander in Vlakplaas. We left Vlakplaas and we were deployed in Northern Province, where we were supposed to work there and trace members of MK. On a particular day we were called, Capt Vermeulen told us - it was myself, W/O Letsatsi and Mfalapitsa, that we should go ...

MR VAN DER MERWE: During this incident you were a member of Vlakplaas and you fell under the commander of the Commander, Mr Eugene de Kock.

MR HATTINGH: And this is set out in the supplementary affidavit with regard to Vlakplaas and there you deal comprehensively with that discretion?

MR BOOYENS: On page 248, is it correct to say that right from the outset, you were at Vlakplaas?

MR ROSSOUW: Mr Willemse, when this incident took place, were you stationed at Vlakplaas?

MR LAX: C10, just for your information, was Vlakplaas.

      3.    The Committee finds that no offence for which amnesty can be granted has been disclosed in respect of the acts involving the transportation of arms from Namibia to Vlakplaas or from Vlakplaas to the Security Branch in Natal.

MR VISSER: And C Section had, amongst others, incorporated in it C1 and that was Vlakplaas?

Mr Ras, in July 1989, you were a Warrant Officer stationed at the C1 Unit in Vlakplaas, is that correct?

a farm known as Vlakplaas, a so-called anti-terrorist unit?

... unpleasant.  He did say that he was told later, after Mlangeni's death, that the package they had sent had exploded.  Although he then realised Vlakplaas was responsible for the death he did not say ...

MR LAMEY: You see the reason why I ask you, there must have been a good reason why Vlakplaas was involved, because if the people were not armed, or if you never thought that the people would be armed, you could have done it yourself, is that not so?

CHAIRPERSON: Well we started with Mr de Kock referring to his volume on Vlakplaas, which is what, 150 pages.

CHAIRPERSON: What was the work that Vlakplaas was doing at the time?

EXAMINATION BY MR LAMEY: Mr Nortje, you also applied for amnesty for various incidents in which you were involved as a member of Vlakplaas. Some of them have already been heard by the Committee, is that correct?

MR CORNELIUS: At the time of this incident you were attached to the section which was commonly known as Vlakplaas, C Section under the command of Colonel Eugene de Kock, one of the applicants in this matter, is that correct?

MR MBELO: No, I mean I was not aware that I was going to join Vlakplaas. I thought that I was going to join headquarters, Security Branch.

MR HUGO: And just for the sake of completion, you also request that the supplementary submission regarding your background and political convictions and motivations, as well as your supplementary affidavit regarding Vlakplaas, be regarded as incorporated with your current application.

MR VAN DYK: Security Head Office Pretoria and Vlakplaas.