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Transcripts for Section 3 of Episode 12
|06:35||Muziwakhe Ngwenya, better known as Thami Zulu or TZ, was one of the ANC’s 1976 recruits. He rose rapidly through the ranks and by 1983 he was head of Umkhonto we Sizwe’s Natal underground machinery and a senior official of the Communist Party. In 1988 one of his senior comrades confessed to having been a spy. TZ was detained by ANC security or Mbokodo, of which he was a senior officer. There was no trial. He became very ill in detention and shortly after his release in November 1989, he died. Despite four internal commissions of inquiry appointed by the ANC no satisfactory explanation for his death has been given. The first inquiry found he was poisoned and that he had TB and AIDS. The ANC this week repeated that the organisation was not to blame for his death. Thami Zulu’s parents pleaded strongly with the Truth Commission this week. ||Full Transcript and References|
|07:33||The submission that I shall make here is not an assault on the ANC as a movement but something to point out some of the atrocities and the violation of human rights by some of the members of the ANC in exile. In 1989 we heard he was in detention in Lusaka. The South African Council of Churches gave my wife and I two air tickets to proceed to Lusaka. In Lusaka I met Mr. Nzo, then Secretary-General of the African National Congress, Mr. Nkoli, Treasurer-General, Mr. Joe Ndlandla, Chief of Intelligence, and Mr. Zuma, Jacob. We told them we had come to find out why our son was in detention. They told us that our son was not detained. Of course, this was proved afterwards to have been a lie. Six months later, his wife phoned me to say TZ was now in an ANC cell and in solitary confinement. And that he was being tortured. At my expense, because the SACC could no longer finance me to fly over to Lusaka, I bought my own air ticket. I waited and waited, and altogether I remained in Lusaka for 18 ...more||Full Transcript|
|10:34||We have waited for seven years since TZ’s death for official contact from the ANC. Nobody, nobody, despite what he did for the organisation, came to us to say ‘we are sorry’. Just to offer their sympathy. No one came. There is some contradiction. The military wing was with him, they supported him right through, even at the time when his corpse was fetched from Zambia. They were with him; they were working with the family. They had nothing against him. And the people who were not working with him, that is the security, is the group that had something to do with him. There’s that contradiction, which shows that there was a little clique. One of the papers quoted that there was a struggle of power. And, of course we’d known, my son said it when we went to see him the last time in Zambia. He said that there was bad blood between him and Jacob Zuma. ||Full Transcript|
|11:46||I challenge whoever says TZ was a police agent. The ANC is a free movement now. They should institute a commission of inquiry, headed by a judicial officer where we are all represented. I challenge them to prove that he ever was, or that my family ever had any connection, with the special branch. I challenge them, I challenge them. I challenge them.||Full Transcript||