Special Report Transcript Episode 52, Section 2, Time 11:23

May I say that your interests, the interests of the security forces, and the interests of the witdoeke converged in a sense? // Yes mam. // …. And that all three groups would have done anything to make sure that the strategies you engage in facilitated the process. For you, the process would be development… // One could say that. // For the security forces the goal would be to clear the area of comrades and for the witdoeke to get rid of UDF related allies etc. // Yes mam.

Notes: Dr Mapule Ramashala (Commissioner); Ulrich Schellhase (Township Admin and Housing Board)