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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 601 to 620 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 Next Page•Last PageMR NAIDOO: Were you the most junior member of the team that went to Mr Kunene's house on the fateful day? I'm sorry to say this, I was also disappointed with the way the defence team carried on. We've lost lives here, I've lost my dear son and just because people don't want to come up with the truth, and we know very well that a helicopter was on the scene on that day. Even these guys who have come ... MR ROSSOUW: In other words, you were a part of a team of C1, Vlakplaas members which was working in Mafikeng and Mr de Kock was still in Pretoria? MR WILLS: You met with a special advocate who was attached to the Attorney General's investigative team of Pretoria and you told them all about your incidents in Ermelo and you assisted and are going to be used as a State witness in Ermelo. Is that correct? This is the situation that the fifth applicant found himself to be in at the time. He was a fairly newly appointed member of the Security Branch, he was a constable, he did not form part of the inner core of the investigation team. Mr Netshivale was not involved in any decision making, he was ... ADV DE JAGER: Not by your team? DR RANDERA: And you said the first time you were given medical treatment was when the international team arrived, international doctors arrived. How long was that after you went to the island? WITNESS: My testimony in both languages, in some areas of the statement I will address myself in English, in some areas I will address in Xhosa. I do so because I believe in cases where one is emotional, you have to express yourself in your own language. Firstly, let me indicate that I am not ... MR MANTHATA: Perhaps what I can do would be to request you if you have anything or documentation, be it at home or with you here, that you leave them with us. Perhaps our investigating team can look into the matter, because it seems the matter that is so confused and yet it is so painful. I will ... Two or three days after they had arrived at Josini, Mngomezulu was loaded onto Schoon's bakkie. He, Pienaar, Willemse, Van Dyk and Schoon left in two vehicles. He then already knew that Mngomezulu would be eliminated. They left for Sodwana and travelled south. They stopped. He recalls ... MR VIKTOR: Chairperson, any one of us who was involved in this team did some reconnaissance and that is how we knew how to get to the particular houses. MR DU TOIT: Chairperson, I definitely did not know who the specific individual was, if they had mentioned a particular name to me at that point, it wouldn't really have meant much to me, other than the motivation and the fact that a decision had already been taken by a higher authority and by the ... MR LEOPENG: Maybe with the leave of the Panel, can I ask you was Mr Fourie also part of your team who abducted - who spoke to Mr Sedibe at Piet Retief? MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... We then left that house because we were aware that he knew about it. From that day we learnt that other comrades such as Aron Matse, Team(?) and Desmond had been arrested and other comrades whose name I cannot recall now, but it was mostly the leadership of CYL who had been arrested. MR GOVANSAMY: Chairperson, may I just add one thing? My name is Gary Govansamy. I was part of the team for my family, taking up the cudgels for them in this instance. I want to say that I understand the political process. I understand the whole question of reconciliation and truth. It has been ... MR STANDER: Just allow me, because you have pertinently asked me - I am going to haste to say that it is highly improbable that there was a so-called sticker on that wall while we have had evidence here referring to the attempts by police officers not to propagate assaults or allow it, and that the ... MR McBRIDE: Yes. Just to elaborate on the answer. I was asked this yesterday by I think, the Honourable Chairperson, and I indicated that the reason for instructing the legal team to ask this question was that already at that stage these were my instructions. My perception was that there would ... MR LOOTS: There was a team of Special Forces operators. consisting of persons unknown to me CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Mr Van Wyk and your team. I think the deputy Chairperson took all the words out of my mouth that I was going to actually add to our appreciation of what you've done today. |
