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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 261 to 280 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 Next Page•Last PageMR LE ROUX: Yes Chairperson, we redeployed ourselves with some adaptations. We wanted to cover a larger area as to when the vehicle would stop that we could be able to see it. The vehicle arrived, it stopped, it killed the headlights, we started moving closer. I specifically was behind a wire ... MR HATTINGH: And later, when you made the other statement, was it a statement which you made to the Attorney-General's Investigative Team? MR VISSER: Chairperson, we would have to speculate, we don't know where he was from, we believe it was the so-called D'Oliviera team, but I don't want to ... But the point is that this conversation took place at, apparently, at CR Swart Square, but even that may be wrong. I don't want to limit it ... Botha testified that he and his colleagues were told by De Kock to get themselves ready for a cross-border operation in Swaziland. He told them that they were going to ambush "ANC terrorists" who were about to infiltrate the country. The aim of the ambush was to stop them from doing so. ... MR RAS: No, I didn't make a statement in the case against him. Afterwards I went to the special investigating team and said I would make a full disclosure but in his case I didn't testify. "I gave these hand grenades to Eugene de Kock and his team" MR DU PLESSIS: Shortly after that, I can remember that Captain Van Zyl came to me and that I informed him that I already knew about it, and that he could proceed and compile a team and gather the necessary information. We thank also all the hard workers who have helped us to prepare these hearings. We thank Solly Terblanche and his team for providing the sound and the amplification. And the leader of the investigation team was Lucas van Loggerenberg and McDonald and a few others, there were so many of them, but he was the leader. And he was also the one who was giving orders for my beatings. After six months Lucas came - he told me that the Section 29 Detention Order has ... MS THABETE: So are you saying to me yourself and your colleagues, you couldn't form a team and go and investigate in an area that you were familiar with, is that what you are saying to me? MR LE ROUX: I was part of a team and we saw it as that and I did not know how many people would die. I thought that the area that we targeted was more an office area and also a sort of a bad neighbourhood. MR DA SILVA: I've asked the witness if he can indicate when was the first time he consulted with my legal friends, the legal team on the other side, my learned friends. MR VISSER: If I said 45, I'm mistaken. His application appears in volume 1 on page 137, Brigadier Schoon's application, it's in volume 1, page 137 and following. Brigadier, is it correct that you have already, in several instances, testified verbally as well as in writing before the ... Mr Mohale had already made those statements, he implicated me in Mr Songo's case, he implicated Mr Radebe and Mr Thwala in Mr Namane's case. How on earth could we have been able, even if we had the best legal team in the world, I don't think we would have succeeded to try and twist these things ... MR VAN DEN BERG: Personally I don't think that I did anything wrong. But Col Erwee made enquiries at the investigating team of the Attorney-General and they said that they were investigating a case of conspiracy to commit murder against us, and that is why I am here. MR WAGENER: And that was the legal team under the leadership of Adv Sam Maritz of the Pretoria Bar? MR COETZEE: The first time I was contacted again was by Brigadier Schoon when he instructed me to pick up the drops from Lothar Neethling and proceed to Komatipoort and team up with Archie Flemington, Major Archie Flemington, the then branch commander of Lebombo or Komatipoort then Security Branch, ... ADV STEENKAMP: Madam Chair, maybe I must just, just for your information just put the following on record regarding this specific incident. I'm talking about now the incident of the so-called Dube and Umzimhlope Hostels. Now in this incident no information whatsoever about the incident itself ... MR LUTHULI: When I arrived at Nkosi Nqobo, I found a team that had been sent from Ulundi, it was headed by Nkosi Kaula. There was also another hit squad, headed by Captain Hlengwa of the KwaZulu Police that we already found in the area. MR RAUTENBACH: Mr Chairman, the second point I would just like to raise was, fortunately this one doesn’t call for a ruling of any nature, is that I just want to place it on record that the family intends to call the witness who has been referred to as Bheki Nkosi. I have already made arrangements ... |
