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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 261 to 280 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 Next Page•Last PageMR McBRIDE: Yes, I just want to mention this is the first time I have heard of a Mr Baker, at all, related to this incident. Not in the trial court or in subsequent appeal hearings or anywhere else has a Mr Baker been referred to. Neither was this name included in the summary of substantial facts ... And the leader of the investigation team was Lucas van Loggerenberg and McDonald and a few others, there were so many of them, but he was the leader. And he was also the one who was giving orders for my beatings. After six months Lucas came - he told me that the Section 29 Detention Order has ... MS THABETE: So are you saying to me yourself and your colleagues, you couldn't form a team and go and investigate in an area that you were familiar with, is that what you are saying to me? MR RICHARD: Now in the nature of things, because you say you're familiar with these things, you would have known that if it were a transmitter there would have been a back-up team listening to the transactions where the deceased was and they would have known where he went. MR LOOTS: On the contrary, Vuyo was handed over to Mr Verster, and he went with the team to Botswana where the house was identified. MR WAGENER: And that was the legal team under the leadership of Adv Sam Maritz of the Pretoria Bar? MR HATTINGH: That is when you decided to deploy others, or at least members of your team to go to Meyer's house. MR VISSER: Ms Miller, I am not going to argue about that, we were not, we are not an investigation team with access to these things, you are. Mr van Heerden, you've applied for amnesty and you've given your full co-operation to the investigative team of the TRC. May I also bring the apology of Professor Magwaza, who was supposed to be with us here. We are supposed to be a team of four, and because of the work in the office we had to excuse Professor Magwaza to attend some of the assignments in the office so that we could come here ourselves. We thank Sollie Terblanche and his team for supplying the sound which has enabled you to hear the proceedings and we thank you to hear the team of interpreters who have allowed you to hear it in your own language. They carry out very demanding work, very tiring and very important and we thank them ... MR VERMEULEN: The team that moved out with us, Mr Chairperson. MR WILLIAMSON: No, Mr Chairman, it isn't incorrect. As I have already said about the so-called final briefing, it was not merely a final briefing in that everybody sat and heard everything. We were gathered in a flat and there were various discussions, there was a briefing by the Brigadier and as ... MR VALLY: Thank you, Archbishop. I just want to start off by thanking the ANC team and the research team for their detailed response to the questions that we submitted to them. It gave us lots of fruitful thought and as well as raised a number of questions which we need to pose. "... I also said, it should read he also said, that is you, also said he once heard from the late Mothiba that Warrant Officer Coetzee and his team once arrested a lady ..." MR VAN DER WALT: I think that when the further revelations came to light in 1993, 1994, I am not sure exactly when, there was an investigating team from Judge Goldstone who visited me at my home, and I denied everything at that stage as well. And I need to say that we do not and cannot address you fully on what took place in the programme because we do not know. That is for you to decide. Nor can we address you fully on what are the issues that are going to come before you. Nor what matters will be the subject of cross-examination by ... MR STEYN: That's correct. On this occasion it was ordered or I received an order that a national investigating team should be put together and that the matter should be investigated thoroughly to be able to reveal everything in respect of this operation, but that in all probability and due to the ... MR DE KOCK: Yes, it was a lie. I misled my legal team in that regard. Mdantsane. The interrogation was led by White men. The team was led by Charles |
