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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 681 to 700 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 Next Page•Last PageMISS OOSTHUIZEN: Good morning everyone. As you have already heard I’m Karen Oosthuizen from Clarendon High School and I’m also the Junior Town Clerk of East London. The vision of a reconciled nation is indeed a magnificent one. It is one in which all racial discrimination has been eradicated, ... MR HUGO: I understand that, but it seems to me that he had already chosen his team and the destination had been determined? MR CURREN: Clinton McAslin. Gregory Nott. Mpuleng Pooe.Jane Evans. That is the team that will be representing that groupof people. We are coordinating as a team, some people are notgoing to be here all the time they are going to be a lot of doingthe taking of statements and preparation and ... The position is that this document, and perhaps Mr Rautenbach can assist us in this regard, this document came into the possession of Mr Rautenbach and/or his team or the Legal Resources Centre, if not last week, sorry not last week, the week before last week, or at the latest sometime during ... Mr de Kock, both Mr Mose and Mr Manzini, in the two different incidents, left with the whole team to go to these particular points and then passed on to the border. Just go through that bit of detail for me. Mr Flores, you've prepared an application in terms of Section 18 of Act 34 of 1995, presented it to the TRC Committee in Cape Town and provided your full co-operation with the TRC Committee's Investigating Team, is that correct? MR GOOSEN: Chairperson, as it appears from my application before you, I indicated that I received an instruction from Capt Flip Loots, and I would also like to add that during consultation with Mr Momberg who forms part of the legal team, it became clear that I had received the instruction from ... MR ROSSOUW: After the incident you returned with the team to the Republic, can you recall whether this took place on the same day or on the following day? MR RAUTENBACH: Mr Chairman, the situation is this, that there was an attempt during the inquest by the investigating team - now if I say there was an attempt by the investigating team, it doesn't mean that, well very few of their attempts were in fact successful, but in trying to locate the ... While thinking of a way to acquire firearms, the applicant states that he was approached by a colleague, one sergeant J J Mdluli, who was also wanting to acquire firearms in order to assist ANC supporters from his area. Mdluli informed the applicant that he had had a discussion with constable S ... So, during those years, they recorded rabies for example. Mr Vally has his facts wrong, and he must get his Investigative Team to ascertain these facts. ADV GCABASHE: In relation to the 31st August which is the day that the Vlakplaas team successfully completed this operation, in relation to that when did you see General Erasmus, one week, one month, two months before? MR HATTINGH: In Denmark you were represented by various members of an Investigative Team which included Dr D'Oliviera, the then Attorney General for Transvaal as well as people like Adv Pretorius and Adv Ackerman and so forth? MR W H J COETZEE: The scope, I cannot recall the scope of it but all that I know is that afterwards the credibility was such that Langa shortly afterwards in person was met at a point in Soweto after which we acted against that person, arrested that person with eight limpet mines as well as ... In conclusion a legal inquest was held, a number of statements were obtained in this regard and the Magistrate said that the death was not due to a crime. This was the finding of the Magistrate in terms of the inquest. On initiative of the deceased’s father and by means of his attorneys, there ... So, it strikes me as being strange that there was a grenade and a fully operating grenade there. And in fact the question that comes to mind, is whether in fact it was a real and potent grenade. I am not sure how these things work, but I am just wondering if it was a potent grenade, given the ... MR DU TOIT: It is possible that I spoke to him, but I cannot recall that I said anything to him regarding a disguise or a beard or anything like that. Usually there were many people on such a scene and the first person that one would speak to would be the demolitions expert, who in this case was ... MR ROSSOUW: Just before we continue, the co-operation between yourself, a member of C2 to then join the operational team, C1, did this happen before at other opportunities? Have you worked with them before? CHAIRPERSON: We thank the three of you for the testimony which you have come to give here. We will send our Investigative Team to you in Fort Beaufort to come and take more details as they are going to go and investigate the DR RANDERA: The one other aspect, and I am sure our investigating team will have to make further enquiries, is that when you enquired at the police station in Thlabani, they actually had the name of your son in the book. That is what you say in your statement. I am asking this question because my ... |
