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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 681 to 700 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 Next Page•Last PageThe Applicant testified that he did not know why K B Magubane killed Black. He had only heard that the previous day there had been a party at Mr Magubane's place. The Chonco boys had also been invited to the party because Mr Magubane had a soccer team and some of the Chonco boys were soccer ... MR SANDI: When you were giving your statement you had a request to the Commission to forward this request to the President, together with his team, do you remember what your request was? Do you receive a pension? MR TAYLOR: We have to distinguish between the letters, C refers to Centre and the other refers to Committee so if there was a meeting, it would have been the Joint Information Centre and would be those who would be involved in the operational team and who would be dealing with information as it was ... MS VAN DER WALT: Because you see, you are assisted by a very experienced advocate and attorney and during this session of this Committee, several statements have been submitted by your legal team for other applicants which provide further information for their statements which they made initially, ... MR MOOIJ: Can you tell the Committee, was there any visible evidence to you or to members of your investigation team which indicated how the money which the applicant told you he had received, how that had been spent? MR VISSER: Chairperson, it's a good question and we'll probably never know the answer, but what I will suggest to you is that Mr Zeelie was accosted by the Special Investigation team of the Attorney-General and he was confronted and in spite of his denials, he knew at that time that what he was ... After that I fired some shots. Now the reason I fired shots was, it was appreciated that if there is such a senior National Party member, Mr Radoo or Radu or whatever you call it, then it means there will be his VIP team, there will be senior police officers, senior army officers and national ... MR SIBANYONI: The impression I’ve got when I read the applicants is that they surprised the occupants of the house. But when one reads the report apparently coming from Lawrence, is that he was working in conjunction with the team. How did you understand the operation? How was it conducted? MR CORNELIUS: Yes. But I think that clears the situation up. This is purely I understand from my instructions, after the Attorney-General's Special Investigations Team, alleged that he was kidnapped, that this application was drawn by my client. I will leave it at that for what it is worth, Mr ... The application arises out of an incident which occurred at Ndwendwe on the 23rd of March 1990 when the applicant, in concert with Mduduzi Desmond Mbhele; Lucky James Hlengwa; Sibusiso Patrick Thembe and Dumisani Ernest Dlamini robbed a pension team, escorted by police, which was to pay out ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Vally, I just want to indicate that at some stage I need to get an indication from the Investigative Team through you, former Minister Roelf Meyer was mentioned here on two occasions at least in a manner that might lead to a finding to his detriment, and I just want to know from ... MR THULARE: Earlier in your evidence it was put to you that you had instructed at the preparatory meeting or meetings before the bombings that if uniformed police, if anyone obstructed the team that was going to damage these buildings they should be killed and you said that you didn't mean it in ... ADV GCABASHE: Thank you Chair. Mr Zakwe, a couple of questions, just clarify for me. You know the first meeting that you had with the comrades, they came to complain to you about the actions of Skosana, you then said to us that you said to them that they should come back to you the following day, ... MR SIBANYONI: Now on the night of the operation, did you also return together with the team just through the border, not at the border post? When we came out of the gate van der Berg who was in charge at that time would take the team out with our shoes. He beat me again on my face and I fell down but I got up again and followed the others. All day I was not able to really understand what was going on I was simply observing as I was ... end up at that but also in his clear vision he appointed a chairperson whom he very carefully selected and I would like to commend the chairperson so selected by our president together with his team for the job they have done in conducting the hearings at this Truth and Reconciliation Commission so ... MR PHOSA: Now, was he part of the team that interrogated Mr Mthimkhulu whilst he was in detention? I have prepared a full set of copies of the rectified heads of argument for all the members of the Panel as well as the legal team on the other side. They already have copies. COLONEL NEL: I was called Mr Chair to testify in that Commission. If I can remember correctly it was in 1993 because I was Intelligence Officer and documents that were available to the Webster investigating team indicated a name, David Webster on that, and I admitted that that was a document that ... And therefore you gave up or the case was dismissed already. In your statement you said that you plead with the Truth Commission it must go further with this investigation. You are not happy. You want the truth to be revealed and you don’t like the manner in which your case was handled. We will ... |
