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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 701 to 720 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 Next Page•Last PageMR MANTHATA: Okay. I will leave you over to Russel Ally, who has had contact with our investigative team on this matter. Perhaps he can lead you on the basis of what he might be having in the office. Over to you Russel. MR VAN DER VEER: I'm not aware that Jimmy Deale signed it. Let me explain the situation on that Saturday morning, not that night, okay? It's five o'clock in the morning, we have an aircraft missing, we're not sure what happened, okay? When Mr Lewis phoned me the first time, he said to me, ... As the time went by we stayed at home. We did not isolate ourselves from the people, we were amongst the people in every activity in Cookhouse. I did not belong to any other member, but what, the organisation I belonged to was the Resident's Organisation. We were playing rugby together with the ... ADV DE JAGER: Could I say that in the past we had the Ngo matter where the Investigation Team couldn't find any documents and the private attorneys appearing for people got hold of those documents within three hours by going to the police station and asking for it, here in Mamelodi actually. MRS KOKI: There is the true ANC and the false ANC, because there are two sections of the ANC. These two sections, the other section, they do things which we don't understand. It is this section which used to use my child and use me, but they have severed relationships with me. But this other ... And since that time, when you came to tell us before, our investigating team have been working very hard to try and find out exactly what happened on that day. And we hope that today and tomorrow things will become more clear and you will have answers to some of the questions you have been asking ... Mrs Maurise and I spoke earlier and she said to me that she was not present when her son was shot and asked me to read the report by our investigating team and she will then tell the remainder of the story. I will read it in English but maybe Mrs Maurise can use the headphones to hear it in ... MR ERASMUS: He could possibly have been there because he was the head of the demolitions team. MR LEOPENG: Did you ask the team which abducted him from Swaziland how was his reaction when he was abducted, whether he fought with them, whether he resisted abduction? The first Investigation Officer, a Warrant Officer Sipho Mbele, complained that the investigation was not conducted properly insofar as normal procedures and practices on the murder scene were roundly ignored, and his own investigation was interfered with by individuals in the Security Branch. He ... 2. The first attempt of De Kock and his team to abduct Msibi was unsuccessful and they returned to the RSA. The next morning the operation was replanned. General Stadler, Brig Schoon and Brig S.J. Visser waited at the border post at Oshoek whilst De Kock and his members from Vlakplaas as well as ... MR PATEL: Mr Chairman, I think as being part of the team that represents applicants, there's been an attempt to use this document, surely we ought to be able to examine it? MR NORTJE: I took the investigative team to the scene and that was about 10 years ago and the trees seemed, or seemed like they were cut down and they started growing, but the original trees were taller than those in photo 6A. MR SONO: They never played soccer, he was just playing (indistinct), I never saw him play for that team. Why I say that is because the very boys, when they approached my neighbour, Mr Shabalala, they said to him they are from the Mandela Football Club and they were looking for Lolo and Sibonisa. ... That is probably three or four forests alone. In addition, the court view hours of video footage shot by numerous journalists and also filmed by the SABC and the South African Police video team. The position is that this document, and perhaps Mr Rautenbach can assist us in this regard, this document came into the possession of Mr Rautenbach and/or his team or the Legal Resources Centre, if not last week, sorry not last week, the week before last week, or at the latest sometime during ... MR MATTHEWS: You have pointed out to your legal team during consultations that there are certain differences in your version and that of the affidavit taken by this person in the Westville Prison, is that correct? CHAIRPERSON: They worked as a team. MR VAN HEERDEN: Would you for example, travel around in that area with the family and have a look, or go there with an investigative team? MR ROSSOUW: In other words, you were a part of a team of C1, Vlakplaas members which was working in Mafikeng and Mr de Kock was still in Pretoria? |
