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A-Team (OFS)Explanation Showing 681 to 700 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 •39 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Because isn't it so that with the units, the units were the group of people who usually operated together and knew each other, even if they didn't know each other's real names, they knew each other's combat names, they had a commander, they usually had a deputy commander, they were ... Before I introduce the team on my left and on my right, I just want to remind ourselves I suppose of the overall aims of the Commission. A Commission which is dedicated to the search for truth in the hope of the contribution towards the reconciliation which we all long for and are working towards ... ADV POTGIETER: Thank you to our esteemed team leader. Good afternoon, Mrs Nthoroane. We realise that although this incident happened in 1989, some years ago, it still is obviously quite a difficult and a painful experience for you. I would like you to tell the story so that we can take note of ... MR CORNELIUS: Thank you Mr Chairperson. I intensively and deeply consulted with Mr Snyman about this issue. He can shed no further light. How it came about is that the Attorney-General's investigating team approached, after they spoke to Andreiowitch, they approached my client and they said: ... MR MBANDAZAYO: Thank you. Chairperson, when this thing came out, luckily I was involved because I was assisting the legal team of the three, the attitude of the police was always - I remember, Chairperson, I was in Bloemfontein in August 1998, I think it was, I don't know whether the rank is Major ... As far as motive is concerned, it seems from the evidence of the applicant that the motive was politically inspired. He said that he was a member of the Orde Boerevolk and he therefore signed a declaration of war. During his detention, under Section 29 of the Internal Security Act, there was ... CHAIRMAN: So in your team it could happen that if someone was killed at any certain place, you would not get together at the end of the day and share your reports with each other? The 1st Applicant testified that after the failed attempt by the 7th Applicant to obtain information from the Deceased he had a discussion with the 3rd Applicant. The 3rd Applicant proposed that the next step to be taken should be to abduct the Deceased and interrogate him. The 1st ... MR MAFOJANE: Now, my last question, Mr Vlok, were you part of the team that - or rather let me phrase it this way - you were part of the government during the negotiation phase, is it not correct? MR MALAN: So in your mind you have no doubt that was a collating between Imbokhoto and the KwaNdebele police? Collusion, they were one and the same team? You have no doubt in your mind about that? I’d like to thank the members of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission staff who have preparing here, the statements takers who have been here in advance, for all the team under our logistics officer, Gail van Breda, I am not sure she is in the hall at the moment and all the team that have worked ... The people who were assembled there were referred to as a team and amongst them were those who were called the PAC team, you have the ANC team because they were specialists in torturing and in dealing with members of the different organizations, particularly members of the PAC as it was facing us ... MR VALLY: It was given to you, I believe, not to you Gen Neethling, but to your legal team. MS PATEL: But they were invited to this party, not so as part of the membership to the soccer team that Mr Magubane was in charge of? CHAIRMAN: Mr Mpshe apart from just the members of the Committee who are prepared to listen we may be inconveniencing others who are in the support team that runs this meeting, and I think it is now 4:30. It is beyond our normal time, and I think if it not going to be too inconvenient we should ... MR B WILLIAMS: In your own opinion, Mr Mbelo, and judging by the instruction that had been given to you and in view of the fact that most of the deceased in this matter have serious injuries to their heads, would you agree that the inference is almost inescapable that they were meant to be killed? ... MR KOK: At that unit there were only four persons who worked in that unit and we usually worked in a team together, because everybody had a certain function to perform, so in that instance I would accept that it would only be the four of us. If ...(intervention) MR ALBERTS: And at the end of that month, which would be the beginning of December 1996, you were busy with your legal team in preparation of your application. MR LESHABA: No, he was no longer burning by then, he was simply lying down and he was powerless because of the stones which pelted him. In answering those questions as to how he practised witchcraft and as to with whom did he practice witchcraft, he said: "I have got a team of people with whom I ... INSP. DE LA REY: Chairperson, the investigation team was consisting of myself, members of the Murder and Robbery Unit in Bloemfontein as well as members of Murder and Robbery Unit in Welkom. |
