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Special Report
Transcripts for Section 3 of Episode 25

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10:40Victims of police attacks did not always have famous names. Richard Carolissen and his brother ran into a block of flats to escape a police shooting in a Stellenbosch township in 1976. That’s where Ronald Carolissen was shot dead in cold blood.Full Transcript and References
10:59Cloetesville is the small, quiet and traditionally Coloured township outside Stellenbosch. It is here in September 1976 that Ronald Carolissen was shot by police in a period of recurring violence. His brother, Richard Carolissen gave an eyewitness account of the chaotic and brutal circumstances in which his brother died.Full Transcript
11:22We were round about at the flats when the police came chasing out and they were chasing a group of people and shooting. Certain incidents during [inaudible] told me that we must get out of the way, that we should move to the flats. I ran into one flat and he ran into another one. I heard some shots. When I came out I saw them drag my brother’s body out. According to one of the eyewitnesses a certain mister Donalds, he was standing on the steps and so he could see inside the bathroom in which my brother was at the time. He said that the policeman told my brother to come out and my brother answered him ‘Okay, sir, I am coming out please don’t shoot’ and he put his hands into the air. And then the policeman shot him from very close range. The bullets penetrated his heart and his liver and his lungs. And while my brother was laying on the ground the policeman’s colleagues came out and congratulated him telling him it was a good shot. Afterwards there was a court case but the ...moreFull Transcript
13:23Richard felt angry and betrayed at the loss of his brother. For me it was very difficult because not only was he my brother, he was also a friend. We were inseparable, because we are a big family, but the two of us we were always together. The anger I could handle but who do I trust? First of all my brother was running, hoping that he would be safe in that flat and then a Coloured, a so-called Coloured for that matter, called the police.Full Transcript
14:01Though Ronald’s death was tragic, at least Richard believes it was not completely senseless. // I believe that his death made a contribution to the new South Africa. That all that suffering we went through wasn’t really in vain.Full Transcript
14:16In an historic first for the Truth Commission’s Human Rights Violations Committee a serving policeman told a father at the Paarl hearings of the Truth Commission what he knew about the death of his son. But like so many of the stories we hear this one begins with the heartache of yet another deadly shooting incident. Full Transcript
14:37Adri Faas was a 19 year old law student when he was gunned down by police in Paarl in 1985. He was returning from his girlfriend’s home when it happened here in this quiet street near the police station in the suburb of Huguenot. His unsuspecting parents received the fateful telephone call the next morning.Full Transcript and References
14:57I heard the telephone ring. I went back, picked up the phone and somebody said. Your son was shot dead last night he is lying in hospital. It hurt me so much. I could not believe it. I put down my food and walked up the street. And when I stopped in the road I saw everybody standing there. They were all standing silently, but nobody spoke to me. Then I realized something was wrong. And then I asked them, where is my boy? Who shot my son? And then they all said. The Boers shot your child. And then I had no option. I could not argue because I had not been on the scene. I then went home and then I went down to the morgue to look there. And I saw him lying there. When we came out I asked the pathologist. Sir, how was my son shot because I hear he bent down to pick up stones. The pathologist said he did not bend down - if he had bent down he would still be alive - he was running. And as I walked away two constables, white policemen came to me. They said good afternoon. And I said hello ...moreFull Transcript
17:00The sadness and bitterness left by the death of Adri ripped the Faas family apart. His death triggered a tragic sequence of events. // After his death my mother became ill and things started going wrong in our home. And then it came about that my one brother committed suicide in 1993 when he saw what condition my mother was in. Full Transcript
17:28The official inquiry into Adri Faas’ death found that nobody was responsible for his shooting and that no crime had been committed. For Alexander Faas this was difficult to accept, since the policeman responsible had told him to his face that he had shot his son.Full Transcript
17:47This week, for the first time ever in the life of the Truth Commission a policeman voluntarily took the stand to give supporting evidence. Capt Peter John Clayton had been on duty the night Adri Faas was shot. He told the Truth Commission what had happened that evening. // I cannot remember whether it was a yellow or a white Ford Cortina that came into the entrance of the police station and I could see Lt-Col Oosthuysen and I don’t know who the passenger was. And he took out a shotgun, which did not look anything like the police issue and his words were. You people take too long. I am going to shoot a ‘hotnot’ tonight.Full Transcript
18:34Yesterday when Clayton said that I said thank you God.Full Transcript
 
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