MR CORNELIUS: Cornelius, Mr Chairman, I call D L Snyman.
MR SIBANYONI: Your full names, Mr Snyman.
DANIEL LIONEL SNYMAN: (sworn states)
EXAMINATION BY MR CORNELIUS: Thank you, Commissioner Sibanyoni.
Mr Snyman, you completed an application and handed it in, which serves before this Committee, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct, Chairperson.
MR CORNELIUS: At all times you were in the service of the South African Police, as it is defined in Section 20(2)(b) and 20(2)(f) of Act 34 of '95, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct, Chairperson.
MR CORNELIUS: You were attached to Section C1 at Vlakplaas, of which the general background has already been submitted to the Committee, the so-called Annexure C, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct, Chairperson.
MR CORNELIUS: You confirm in general the contents of your amnesty application as it serves before this Committee, as well as the introduction of your application from page 38 to page 62, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct, Chairperson.
MR CORNELIUS: It is common cause that you received instructions from your commander, Col de Kock, to attend an operation in Swaziland, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct.
MR CORNELIUS: What was your rank at that stage?
MR SNYMAN: I was a Warrant Officer.
MR CORNELIUS: You acted as a so-called footsoldier and executed the instructions from Col de Kock on a need-to-know basis, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct, Chairperson.
MR CORNELIUS: What were you informed was the purpose of the operation in Swaziland?
MR SNYMAN: We were informed by Col de Kock that ANC terrorist would bring weapons from Swaziland to South Africa.
MR CORNELIUS: And the instruction was, it's also common cause, to go and kill these people, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct, Chairperson.
MR CORNELIUS: To shorten your evidence, you were part of the men at the ambush in the cul-de-sac in the bush in Swaziland?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct, Chairperson.
MR CORNELIUS: Did you also fire on the vehicle?
MR SNYMAN: Yes, I also fired on the vehicle.
MR CORNELIUS: And three people were killed, according to your application.
MR SNYMAN: That is correct.
MR CORNELIUS: An aspect which bothers me, on page 63 you say you heard afterwards, although you were not involved in the search, that weapons and explosives were found in the vehicle. Is this allegation of yours correct?
MR SNYMAN: I thought it was so, I may be mistaken.
MR CORNELIUS: You did not place any documentation or anything else in the vehicle?
MR SNYMAN: No, I did not.
MR CORNELIUS: At other instances where you were involved, it happened that weapons and ammunition were planted, but according to - in this instance, according to your knowledge did it happen?
MR SNYMAN: I may have just assumed it, I may have confused it with other incidents.
MR CORNELIUS: Except for your salary did you receive any form of reward, as described in Section 20(3) of the Act?
MR SNYMAN: No, I did not.
MR CORNELIUS: Did you understand that the instruction came from higher seniority?
MR SNYMAN: Definitely, because other divisions were also involved.
MR CORNELIUS: And you refer to Security?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct.
MR CORNELIUS: You did not have any feelings of vengeance or malice towards these people?
MR SNYMAN: No, Chairperson, I only heard that they're ANC terrorists and that they were enemies of the Republic.
MR CORNELIUS: So you apply for amnesty for your participation in the murder of these three people in Swaziland and for any other criminal offence or delict which might flow from this, is that correct?
MR SNYMAN: That is correct.
MR CORNELIUS: Thank you, Chairperson.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR CORNELIUS
MR HATTINGH: Hattingh, Mr Chairman, I have no questions, thank you.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR HATTINGH
MR BOOYENS: Booyens, no questions, Mr Chairman.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR BOOYENS
MR NEL: Nel, Mr Chairman, no questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR NEL
MR ROSSOUW: Rossouw, Mr Chairman, I've got no questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR ROSSOUW
MR BOTHA: Botha, Mr Chairman, I've got no questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR BOTHA
MR VISSER: Visser has no questions, thank you, Mr Chairman.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR VISSER
MR VAN HEERDEN: Van Heerden, Mr Chairman, no questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR VAN HEERDEN
ADV STEENKAMP: No questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY ADV STEENKAMP
MR SIBANYONI: I've got no questions, Mr Chairperson.
ADV SANDI: No questions, Chair.
CHAIRPERSON: Excused on the usual basis.
WITNESS EXCUSED
