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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Again and his team for providing a security. MR HATTINGH: And it was put to you, if I recall correctly, I have not studied this again, but I recall that we consulted with a lady who was a member of the investigating team who investigated that murder and robbery, do you recall that? MR VERSTER: That was the person responsible for the project but they would work in a team so the Regional Manager would give an introduction, the Co-ordinator would say something and the presentation would be done by Mr Slang van Zyl. MR KLOPPER: Chairperson, the Security Branch there was divided into an investigative part and then the tracing part. I was part of the tracing team. We handed them over to the investigative team. I cannot recall who the persons were there, but I was part of the team who traced them. What ... MR HATTINGH: And Mr Nortje, was he the leader of that team? Could you tell us who you were deployed with. You mentioned in your statement that you were with Mr Odendal who else was with you in your team? They then started asking us questions as to what was happening at Chesterville and what problems we had. We then explained to them what problems that we had. Our major problem was the police, we explained and the vigilante group, the group that was called A Team, which group was assisted quite a ... You submitted the application punctually and you gave your support to the Investigative team of the TRC, is that correct? MR DE KOCK: No, not directly but by means of the legal team it has emerged that he did disappear with a firearm. MR P DU PLESSIS: You were represented by Adv Flip Hattingh as leader of the legal team. CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) this matter now. At a convenient time would you make whatever documents you may have to Mr Hugo and see whether you can collate those documents and see whether they tie up with the sequential numbering of the documents that were supposed to have been in the docket. And ... MR VAN VUUREN: My direct Commander was Lieut Hechter and he and I and Mr Mamasela worked as a team together, and we received our instructions directly from Brig Cronje, who at that stage was the Divisional Commander of Security Branch Northern Transvaal. And then in 21 I ask for approval in principle for action 1 or then alternatively for courses 2 and 3. And then I also ask if such approval is granted, that it is suggested that a team be assembled to give details to this plan, because this plan wasn't written for execution but it was written ... MR VALLY: Can you briefly tell us when you were a member of the Special Operations team in Special Forces in the South African Defence Force? GEN JOUBERT: After we had identified the three flash point commands, we divided two teams. The one team we sent to the Northern Transvaal under the command of Brigadier Cronje and the other team under the command of Naude. MR MOOSA: So how do you explain this which you have incorporated as part of your statement, what other members of Mr du Plessis' team are being here referred to? MR BARNARD: Mr Chairperson, during my detention under Section 29, they appointed a legal team, I had no control over this. After my release from the Section 29 detention and the Harms Commission that followed on that, the situation continued, people were appointed to me. It was not Mr du Plessis ... MR DE KOCK: No, not directly but by means of the legal team it has emerged that he did disappear with a firearm. MR TAYLOR: No, Mr Chairperson, this did not happen. I just have to think, they only time that I was approached with regard to this matter was just after - in the beginning of 1986 I was approached by a Colonel Jonker for the Special Investigation Team and there was another person, I don’t know ... MR BERGER: You talk about catching a flight to Frankfurt. On arrival at Frankfurt I saw the rest of the team. We all managed to get on the same flight to South Africa. |
