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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation MR SMITH: Not with the investigating team. The more junior officers, essentially the task team under the leadership of De Kock, believed that they had no choice but to execute the functions allocated to them. They certainly had no intention of disobeying an order from De Kock for fear of the possible repercussions. They had nothing to do ... MR HATTINGH: And Mr Nortje, was he the leader of that team? MR LOOTS: It was known that they didn't often stay for more than one evening at a specific place, for the night and this was information was of great value for the Security Branch. Take Five and Sadie Pule were members of the Special Operations Group of the ANC and they regularly sent weapons ... Where things really went wrong was in the workplace. I remember we had to just do hard labour and during my life there I worked in two quarries, I worked at the Landbouspan (Agricultural Team) and I worked at a job that I didn’t like, taking out seaweed because sometimes that stuff was rotten, so ... MR HATTINGH: And it was put to you, if I recall correctly, I have not studied this again, but I recall that we consulted with a lady who was a member of the investigating team who investigated that murder and robbery, do you recall that? ADV BOOYENS: I then asked Captain van Zyl to compile a team and to plan how we were going to go over to the action of elimination. I believe that we also discussed this, that the perception had to be created that they had left the country and I can remember that we arranged that the vehicle was to ... MR BERGER: You talk about catching a flight to Frankfurt. On arrival at Frankfurt I saw the rest of the team. We all managed to get on the same flight to South Africa. "Foreign Affairs refers to the success which has been achieved in recent times regarding the Lesotho matter, by a small high level project team consisting of RSA officials." MR DE KOCK: No, not directly but by means of the legal team it has emerged that he did disappear with a firearm. MR KRUSER: That's what I thought happened at that stage when I did the statement. This statement was done at the time of preparation for the inquest and I was advised by my legal team that this statement is sufficient for me to apply for amnesty and I subsequently did so. MR MADONSELA: We decided to kill him because he was part of the soccer team and that he was one of the people who attacked our brothers, including myself. MR WILLEMSE: The question is that I should briefly explain what my career was with SAA. I was asked to transfer to SAA during 1979. At that stage I was a member of the legal advisors team and was known then as the South African Railways and Harbours and I fulfilled a very specific role there. I ... Secondly, with regard to the practice of tying bodies to Casspirs, bounty was indeed collected by the team, but he never shared in the spoils. PANEL MEMBER: (...indistinct) I just wanted to know if you have (...indistinct) it will come in we have just (...indistinct) about (...indistinct) all the mental health team. I'm also concerned about the relationship. It's not good enough to say the psychologists will be professionally controlled. ... MR TAYLOR: No, Mr Chairperson, this did not happen. I just have to think, they only time that I was approached with regard to this matter was just after - in the beginning of 1986 I was approached by a Colonel Jonker for the Special Investigation Team and there was another person, I don’t know ... MR WAGENER: Mr Chairman, briefly what happened is a legal team was appointed to represent the then Minister of Law and Order as he was, the Commissioner of the South African Police and in essence the command structure of the police. I as an Attorney was involved in that team, we instructed ... "... of the unit (thank you) had shot dead and buried Simelane in Rustenburg. A Sowetan team accompanied Constable X to the farm in Northum outside Thabazimbi, where he said Simelane was held." So the way we took, and which I think was the basis of Mr Hlope's judgment, was in any case was the basis of the arguments on behalf of the TRC, is that we can find a mid-way which is, let's break his right to silence, but protect him against the disadvantageous effect thereof, and that this does ... MR MORINGER: There was a team seconded from Transkei Military Intelligence. As I said earlier, the whole operation took I think about four months and during this period, the team that was in Johannesburg, respectively in Pretoria, changed from time to time, but if I recall correctly the team was ... |
