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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 321 to 340 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 Next Page•Last Page"De Kock and his team joined us in the planning of the operation. I cannot recall de Kock's team's names, but there were a few askaris." MR WILLS: Yes, because Gen Steyn has conceded during his cross-examination that the members of de Beer's unit, of de Beer's investigation team who were investigating on a national level the Operation Vula, were looking for these people and so you were part of the plan to tell these people that you ... MR HATTINGH: Was it members of the team who were involved with the operation that went down to Durban, to discuss the matter with the Durban Security Police? MR LAMEY: Thank you Mr Chairman, yes I confirm what Mr Brink has said. Mr Chairman I beg leave to hand up to the Committee, these documents have been distributed to the legal representatives of the other parties. It's a bundle of photos which I have obtained from the investigating team of the ... MR VISSER: So it's on that assumption, certainly. Thank you. You say just thereafter that you then contacted the D'Oliviera team and you were able to meet Capt Holmes and you also obtained Vlakplaas records, and then you said you went to see them, and I just want to ask you who precisely are you ... and his team as well, they viewed them as well, so it is no secret MR WALUS: Mr Chairman it's half the truth because the police discovered this list but I can't say I gave it to them, I have no other option, they discovered it and took it. They were investigating team about this assassination. I couldn't give anything, I was not in the position to give or not, I ... MR MATTHEWS: You would have to ask my legal team about that. I cannot answer that question. I have been in prison, I do not have free access to him and I cannot see him when I want to. COL LOOTS: No, I testified Bokaba joined when Dunira resigned and Sengwane and Bokaba then formed a team. MR VISSER: Yes, I don't want to create the impression, my attorney has just checked me on this, I don't want to create the impression that he didn't know about the incident, he obviously knew about the fact that there was an explosion and in fact he also, if I remember correctly, formed part of the ... MR NDUDULA: They were part of the investigating team. They were investigating people who were politically active. ADV NYOKA: Okay. Let's leave that for now. You said in your evidence in chief, you did not know the three Pebco persons when you were told by Mr Van Zyl to be part of this team, not so, you did not know them. All that you knew was that they were Pebco executive members, is that so? (Inaudible) ... you approached Captain who? --- Captain P Harter. He was in command of the investigating team. Captain P Harter has now retired. He got promotion, he and Captain Schilling. On Roland's case they got promotion to majors, they're both majors, but he has now retired. The applicant also admits to assaulting Mr Jones. He testified to assaulting him a number of times by means of the piece of hosepipe while the two of them were alone after the rest of the interrogating team had left the room for reasons which are not really clear. This was after about eighteen ... MR SNYDERS: He was a worker in my team, I acted as a Lieutenant in command of two teams who operated in the Eastern Transvaal and he was one of the persons who worked in my team. MR VISSER: And was this identified to the Investigative Team of the TRC? Thank you. The interrogation team consisted of several members of the special branch. Is that right? --- Yes, that's right. They used to work in rotation. CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR HUGO: Yes, thank you Mr Chairman. Colonel Willy, who was the Head of this Investigation Team that was tasked to bring the culprits to book and to take them to court? MR BEESLAAR: Yes, but it’s possible that we could have returned but it is quite possible that we went with the team. MR MBEWU: For example, since 1982, I was still very young then. We use to enjoy playing football when we were children and we use to play it quite often. We had our own team and at the time of my injury I was still playing for that team. It was the, the team was called Four United Brothers. So ... |
