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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 441 to 460 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 Next Page•Last PageGEN VAN DER WESTHUIZEN: Yes, I endorse that. I can add that I was part of the team which compiled this document and I'd just like to reiterate that that is my feeling today as well. MR VEYI: I'd like to make an example. If I still remember well when I started going to that place I went with Sergeant Sefuti. We would be there when she was interrogated. Superintendent Coetzee would be the one who was the leader of the team so when we were there everybody that was present ... MR KNIGHT: Mr Chairman, if I might just add at this point, this statement that my learned colleague is reading from with regard to Mr Shabalala, Mr Shabalala never signed and denies ever having made, just for the Record. So I don’t, I just wanted to inform the Committee of that. It would come out ... MS VAN DER WALT: Because you see, you are assisted by a very experienced advocate and attorney and during this session of this Committee, several statements have been submitted by your legal team for other applicants which provide further information for their statements which they made initially, ... MR NORTJE: I identified the place for the investigating team and after that we made enquiries and traced the body in the cemetery in Greytown. MR MOOIJ: Can you tell the Committee, was there any visible evidence to you or to members of your investigation team which indicated how the money which the applicant told you he had received, how that had been spent? MR VISSER: Chairperson, it's a good question and we'll probably never know the answer, but what I will suggest to you is that Mr Zeelie was accosted by the Special Investigation team of the Attorney-General and he was confronted and in spite of his denials, he knew at that time that what he was ... After that I fired some shots. Now the reason I fired shots was, it was appreciated that if there is such a senior National Party member, Mr Radoo or Radu or whatever you call it, then it means there will be his VIP team, there will be senior police officers, senior army officers and national ... MR VISSER: Were you one of the members of that team? Only a question in respect of the tapes. Did you read the transcript of Exhibit X1 and X2 before it was handed in by your legal team as exhibits? MR MALAN: So in your mind you have no doubt that was a collating between Imbokhoto and the KwaNdebele police? Collusion, they were one and the same team? You have no doubt in your mind about that? The people who were assembled there were referred to as a team and amongst them were those who were called the PAC team, you have the ANC team because they were specialists in torturing and in dealing with members of the different organizations, particularly members of the PAC as it was facing us ... MR VALLY: It was given to you, I believe, not to you Gen Neethling, but to your legal team. Used by whom? --- Well, there was a team was in form. That team was in form by the unit. I was one of the team. I’d like to thank the members of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission staff who have preparing here, the statements takers who have been here in advance, for all the team under our logistics officer, Gail van Breda, I am not sure she is in the hall at the moment and all the team that have worked ... After I contacted the special investigation team and told them I would give them my full co-operation, I handed three containers with weapons which I had buried. Mr de Kock also did know of all the weapons and amongst others there were 5 LMGs, 6 Makarovs and some explosives. CHAIRPERSON: Sorry, before you stop, let me put one of my difficulties to you. Saying now that these men were, I don't know if accomplice is even the right word, they were part of the team that went to Swaziland to unlawfully kidnap Ndwandwe. They played a very active role in the kidnapping. The 1st Applicant testified that after the failed attempt by the 7th Applicant to obtain information from the Deceased he had a discussion with the 3rd Applicant. The 3rd Applicant proposed that the next step to be taken should be to abduct the Deceased and interrogate him. The 1st ... GEN VAN DER MERWE: In the past we had tried this numerous times, it simply wasn't practically viable. Firstly, one could not place a surveillance team in Lesotho, there wasn't even such a possibility. To surveil persons an a full-time basis involved such a complicated process and one would ... MR MALAN: Mr Friedrich, is it not his evidence that he was in fact part of it all, that he was part of the planning, that he was a member of the team? It wasn't merely that he witnessed the commission of these acts, he was indeed involved in the planning of these acts and he was involved in ... |
