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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 441 to 460 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 19 •20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 Next Page•Last PageMR BURGER: No, that specific answer is incorrect Chairperson, and I blame my legal team for that. MR VAN DEN BERG: As I have it Captain Liesk was part of the D'Oliveira investigative team and that he investigated the allegations against Mr de Kock. Do you know about that? MR BOOYENS: Mr Chairperson, Mr Cornelius' client has just arrived here. He and I have agreed that I will deal with my team of technical personnel first, so with your permission, may we please make the seating arrangements so that we can all take our positions. Could we adjourn, I don't know what ... LEGAL TEAM ON BEHALF OF POLICE EXCUSED MR J F KOK: Yes, operationally he was the highest member of the team which participated in this operation. MR MBELO: A man approached us raising his arms and he was talking in Xhosa saying that he will take us to where the rest of the group is. One Sergeant from the Riot unit, he was a White Sergeant, said I should shoot this man and before I shot this man, as he was raising his arms, I saw his firearm ... where we acted on information where somebody had fired at me and the South African Police video team which was shooting the video at the time gave us that information. We used that information to get to the people that we were after. Deputy Minister Schoeman succeeded, at least succeeded in persuading Brigadier Gqozo to allow the UN monitory team and National Peace Committee to enter Ciskei as long as they were not seen to be part and parcel of the ANC march. Later that afternoon, that is now 3 August, Mr Chairperson, ... MR VISSER: We have heard in the document that was presented by the Investigation Team of the TRC, that people were injured in this attack. Were you aware of that? MR VAN HEERDEN: The typical human reaction to this would have been tension in the team, if there was a leadership crisis. MR BERGER: Thank you Chairperson. If I could just place on record that the documents which we received and which we made the Committee - no, no, I just wanted to say this, we don't have the full application for amnesty. It might well be, and for that we would rely on Mr Prior and his team, it ... CHAIRPERSON: Because isn't it so that with the units, the units were the group of people who usually operated together and knew each other, even if they didn't know each other's real names, they knew each other's combat names, they had a commander, they usually had a deputy commander, they were ... CHAIRPERSON: Sorry, before you stop, let me put one of my difficulties to you. Saying now that these men were, I don't know if accomplice is even the right word, they were part of the team that went to Swaziland to unlawfully kidnap Ndwandwe. They played a very active role in the kidnapping. ADV GCABASHE: And do you know if any other members of your task team were involved in any other operation of this nature? The Applicant, at the time a member of the Security Branch of the South African Police, was part of a team which interrogated a number of detainees. In the course of the interrogation, these detainees were assaulted and also insulted. Before I introduce the team on my left and on my right, I just want to remind ourselves I suppose of the overall aims of the Commission. A Commission which is dedicated to the search for truth in the hope of the contribution towards the reconciliation which we all long for and are working towards ... I’d like to thank the members of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission staff who have preparing here, the statements takers who have been here in advance, for all the team under our logistics officer, Gail van Breda, I am not sure she is in the hall at the moment and all the team that have worked ... I would like to ask you something, Archbishop. What does one do those that did this to you? I feel that they should also appear before such a panel. I’m referring to these that were in this team, I would like them to say why they did all this. When I arrived there there was a team of five policemen, of which the head of the policemen was Captain Thlakanya. They continued interrogating me and they realised that I was wearing an ANC T-shirt underneath. That is where things started to be bad. They undressed me and started beating me. ... The conference had not started, we were preparing for the conference. When I came back I was out casted by the police that were called INKATHA. I - I showed him the - the document, he then said he would speak to his team and that was that. |
