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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 461 to 480 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last PageMRS KOKI: There is the true ANC and the false ANC, because there are two sections of the ANC. These two sections, the other section, they do things which we don't understand. It is this section which used to use my child and use me, but they have severed relationships with me. But this other ... "The team was all present" MR KENDALL: Much talk was heard of this. I was for example at Vlaklaagte where there was a shooting incident, where Mbukoto - or the information that was given to me, that it was a number of men who broke up a youth gathering and the shooting took place and some of the youths were killed, but I ... MR MANTHATA: Okay. I will leave you over to Russel Ally, who has had contact with our investigative team on this matter. Perhaps he can lead you on the basis of what he might be having in the office. Over to you Russel. MR VAN DER VEER: I'm not aware that Jimmy Deale signed it. Let me explain the situation on that Saturday morning, not that night, okay? It's five o'clock in the morning, we have an aircraft missing, we're not sure what happened, okay? When Mr Lewis phoned me the first time, he said to me, ... In the Standerton area the United Democratic Front ("UDF") enjoyed widespread support as a "peoples' organisation" from residents and the youth. Initially things went very well as the youth largely identified themselves with the UDF. But later problems started when some of the youth in the area ... Under cross-examination, Brits revealed that during the criminal trial in which he testified as a State witness against De Kock, he was told by one Advocate Antoinette de Jager not to mention the murder of the deceased herein. He says at the time Ivor Human was part of the Attorney General's ... And since that time, when you came to tell us before, our investigating team have been working very hard to try and find out exactly what happened on that day. And we hope that today and tomorrow things will become more clear and you will have answers to some of the questions you have been asking ... Mrs Maurise and I spoke earlier and she said to me that she was not present when her son was shot and asked me to read the report by our investigating team and she will then tell the remainder of the story. I will read it in English but maybe Mrs Maurise can use the headphones to hear it in ... So, during those years, they recorded rabies for example. Mr Vally has his facts wrong, and he must get his Investigative Team to ascertain these facts. MR VISSER: That is the one that you signed as it would appear from page 61, before a member of the investigative team of the Attorney-General, is that correct? "In this context it is important and significant that Snyman gave a very comprehensive statement covering all operations which he gave to the investigating team. According to Snyman the Motherwell operation was also mentioned in that statement, but not dealt with in any detail. The taking of a ... There was once a rally held at the stadium, and one of the speakers there was comrake Fikile Nkobose, and he mentioned a clique which lived at the corner of Ngwamsa Road that was trying to establish Azapo, and that rally was on a Sunday afternoon. On the Monday morning after that rally, pamphlets ... CHAIRMAN: (Incomplete) ... apologise for a few bottlenecks that have caught up with us this morning. There has been a breakdown with the logistics team that has been bringing some of the things that we are going to be using. For instance, the candle that is usually ceremonially lit, and is ... MR VAN ZYL: That is the case, Mr Chairperson. This statement was prepared by my legal team at that point and this is the evidence that I gave since March 1990. MR LEOPENG: Did you ask the team which abducted him from Swaziland how was his reaction when he was abducted, whether he fought with them, whether he resisted abduction? The first Investigation Officer, a Warrant Officer Sipho Mbele, complained that the investigation was not conducted properly insofar as normal procedures and practices on the murder scene were roundly ignored, and his own investigation was interfered with by individuals in the Security Branch. He ... 2. The first attempt of De Kock and his team to abduct Msibi was unsuccessful and they returned to the RSA. The next morning the operation was replanned. General Stadler, Brig Schoon and Brig S.J. Visser waited at the border post at Oshoek whilst De Kock and his members from Vlakplaas as well as ... MR PATEL: Mr Chairman, I think as being part of the team that represents applicants, there's been an attempt to use this document, surely we ought to be able to examine it? MR NORTJE: I took the investigative team to the scene and that was about 10 years ago and the trees seemed, or seemed like they were cut down and they started growing, but the original trees were taller than those in photo 6A. |
