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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 461 to 480 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 20 •21 •22 •23 •24 •25 •26 •27 •28 Next Page•Last PageMR W H J COETZEE: The scope, I cannot recall the scope of it but all that I know is that afterwards the credibility was such that Langa shortly afterwards in person was met at a point in Soweto after which we acted against that person, arrested that person with eight limpet mines as well as ... So, during those years, they recorded rabies for example. Mr Vally has his facts wrong, and he must get his Investigative Team to ascertain these facts. In conclusion a legal inquest was held, a number of statements were obtained in this regard and the Magistrate said that the death was not due to a crime. This was the finding of the Magistrate in terms of the inquest. On initiative of the deceased’s father and by means of his attorneys, there ... MR ROSSOUW: Just before we continue, the co-operation between yourself, a member of C2 to then join the operational team, C1, did this happen before at other opportunities? Have you worked with them before? CHAIRPERSON: We thank the three of you for the testimony which you have come to give here. We will send our Investigative Team to you in Fort Beaufort to come and take more details as they are going to go and investigate the DR RANDERA: The one other aspect, and I am sure our investigating team will have to make further enquiries, is that when you enquired at the police station in Thlabani, they actually had the name of your son in the book. That is what you say in your statement. I am asking this question because my ... So, it strikes me as being strange that there was a grenade and a fully operating grenade there. And in fact the question that comes to mind, is whether in fact it was a real and potent grenade. I am not sure how these things work, but I am just wondering if it was a potent grenade, given the ... MR BEKEBEKE: In Paballelo, it's not that the police as a whole might be, could have been against certain individuals who were definitely trying to thwart our aspirations to get us out of the morass of poverty in Paballelo. We have friends in the police services. I was playing soccer with a number ... MR MOERANE: Do you remember that the people from Vlakplaas were at a place called Island Rock, where they were having a four day team-building workshop. CHAIRPERSON: Because isn't it so that with the units, the units were the group of people who usually operated together and knew each other, even if they didn't know each other's real names, they knew each other's combat names, they had a commander, they usually had a deputy commander, they were ... The incident occurred while a team of Vlakplaas members was assisting the Nelspruit Security Branch. The team were led by Captain Baker and consisted further of Lieutenant Van Dyk, Sergeant Nofemela and Constable Nicholas Dube. MR BOTHA: Mr Chairperson, I can't remember, but I think that that information was given to the Investigative Team. There was a dossier with that information contained in it. MR ROSSOUW: There was also co-operation between your team and the Security Police in KwaNdebele? MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, when I took over, I put together a construction group which was under the command of Warrant Officer Van der Bijl and he had his own team. He took members from the public which were cleared and they were appointed as HQ sources, they were not HQ sources though but this was ... Those who are working in our investigation team they will bring all the evidence that Sipho Madlala has brought forward. We will see if we can do something. And another thing that you've requested it's help about counselling, you need psychological help, counselling or therapy. Are you still ... MR POTGIETER: Thank you, you may be seated. Welcome to George as well. Mr Lizo, your evidence relates to two incidents. The first one concerns an incident which happened between 1986 and 1987 where you were arrested and tortured by the police, and the second incident relates to August 1993 when ... MR BOTHA: Chairperson, it's my recollection that the rest of the team of askaris who rendered service in Durban spent their evenings there, but the smaller groups ... (indistinct) Mbane, Dube had indeed slept there. MR VAN DER HEYDE: No Mr Chairperson, but I was also involved in the beginning when the TRC process started, to go to all the hostels and to do groundwork, to find out who of their people are in jail for political offences and we then as sort of a legal team, which involved Nel Kotze and van Dyk ... MR NGOBESE:: Yes, it is correct. He was telling the truth if that were the needs. If the needs of the team were not being fulfilled, I agree with him. We thank our Eastern Cape colleagues, Commissioner, Commissioner Bongani Finca and all his colleagues in this region for their very hard work, demonstrating that I head up a team of outstanding persons as Commissioners and Committee members, some of whom are here with me today. |
