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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 541 to 560 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 24 •25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 Next Page•Last Page I have prepared a full set of copies of the rectified heads of argument for all the members of the Panel as well as the legal team on the other side. They already have copies. MR PRETORIUS: Physically I went with the team, I made the preparation as to how we will enter Botswana, where we will wait for Mr Lengene and how we will bring him back to the Republic. So I was part of the planning and of the seizing of Mr Lengene. As far as the other two applicants are concerned that I represent, which is Mr Bellingan and Mr Tait, I would submit that they were, to you Mr Chairperson, that Mr Bellingan was part of the logistics component of this operation. The evidence is clear that he never entered the building, he ... MR RICHARD: Now did he support any political organisation, or was he a member of any particular Football Team? MR PHOSA: Now, was he part of the team that interrogated Mr Mthimkhulu whilst he was in detention? MR THULARE: Earlier in your evidence it was put to you that you had instructed at the preparatory meeting or meetings before the bombings that if uniformed police, if anyone obstructed the team that was going to damage these buildings they should be killed and you said that you didn't mean it in ... ADV GCABASHE: Thank you Chair. Mr Zakwe, a couple of questions, just clarify for me. You know the first meeting that you had with the comrades, they came to complain to you about the actions of Skosana, you then said to us that you said to them that they should come back to you the following day, ... MR MOSIANE: The information was given to us by Simon Radebe. It was for this purpose that he was kidnapped, in order to ascertain information from him regarding his activities and the activities of other members of his unit on which information was supplied by Col Prinsloo of the Northern ... MR G VISSER: Well Mr Chairperson, I was not the only person, it was myself, it was Mr Greyling, Brig Visser also came through to discuss things with him, to talk to him, and Buchner also spent a lot of hours with him, so we were a team who worked with him. I got the impression that he could not ... MR GWALA: No, I was not the Commander at Unit 4 prior to the incident, but I was the person who was in command of the team that went out. ADV BOOYENS: And if there were four members in a team and one was an informer, would it be reasonable that amongst the four of these members, they would have had reasonably good knowledge of whom the informers were and they had general knowledge of the security system and network? Thank you advocate Van Zyl and I also thank the other members of the legal team whom you have place on record as your instructors. Before we begin may I recognise as being present in our mists certain persons. We have I am told members of the former anti apartheid movement as it then existed in ... MR HATTINGH: And whom of you and your team were present during this meeting? CHAIRPERSON: Who was in control of the team? MR SIBANYONI: Now on the night of the operation, did you also return together with the team just through the border, not at the border post? MR MAHARAJ: I was part of the team in the hand-picking. MR MALAN: Now let me just ask you, at that time would the soccer team have members of the Amabuvo and the ANC in the same team? Would they play soccer together? MR KGASI: Now tell me, at the time when you and other black members of this interrogating team left, did you see Mr Mngomezulu, tell us his state by then? MR VAN DER MERWE: Yes Mr Chairperson, thank you very much. I have been brought up to speed by the Evidence Leader. I have spoken to the legal team also representing the families and the victims. I've also had an opportunity to speak to the legal team representing the applicants. I have ... "At times they had to leave the country in order to participate in the ANC's negotiations team, then they would re-enter the country and conduct negotiations after which they would again leave the country legally and then re-enter illegally to continue with Operation Vula." |