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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 621 to 640 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 Next Page•Last PageMS THABETHE: Thank you Mr Chair. I would like to draw the Committee to the papers in front of them. Yes, it is true as my learned colleague has conceived that the applicant is the only person who has testified, but we have papers in front of us. I will start with the issue which I think is ... MR VISSER: You have paragraphs 25 to 28 of Exhibit F before you and you have studied this and this is also a reflection of the information that you gave to us as your legal team. Do you confirm the content of these paragraphs and your insight and political motive with regard to your participation ... MR DU TOIT: Chairperson, I definitely did not know who the specific individual was, if they had mentioned a particular name to me at that point, it wouldn't really have meant much to me, other than the motivation and the fact that a decision had already been taken by a higher authority and by the ... This information was then passed to Colonel Joe Verster and he went with the team to Botswana where the house was identified. The Applicant stated that he knew that the information which he had disclosed to Mr Verster would be used for the purposes of an operation that was aimed at ... The second applicant Mr Mphoreng testified that at the time of the incident he was staying at one of the AZAPO hide out camps in Orlando East. He says that Jeff came to him early in the morning at about six (am) and told him that his house has been burnt. Other AZAPO members came and they ... DR RANDERA: And you said the first time you were given medical treatment was when the international team arrived, international doctors arrived. How long was that after you went to the island? WITNESS: My testimony in both languages, in some areas of the statement I will address myself in English, in some areas I will address in Xhosa. I do so because I believe in cases where one is emotional, you have to express yourself in your own language. Firstly, let me indicate that I am not ... MR MANTHATA: Perhaps what I can do would be to request you if you have anything or documentation, be it at home or with you here, that you leave them with us. Perhaps our investigating team can look into the matter, because it seems the matter that is so confused and yet it is so painful. I will ... Two or three days after they had arrived at Josini, Mngomezulu was loaded onto Schoon's bakkie. He, Pienaar, Willemse, Van Dyk and Schoon left in two vehicles. He then already knew that Mngomezulu would be eliminated. They left for Sodwana and travelled south. They stopped. He recalls ... CHAIRPERSON: No, I understand that, but what is being put to you is - well it's not being disputed what he told you, or what you said that he told you, what is being put to you however, is that it is possible that he could have told you it was a farm or a place where firearms and so on and weapons ... I'm sorry to say this, I was also disappointed with the way the defence team carried on. We've lost lives here, I've lost my dear son and just because people don't want to come up with the truth, and we know very well that a helicopter was on the scene on that day. Even these guys who have come ... ADV DE JAGER: Not by your team? This is the situation that the fifth applicant found himself to be in at the time. He was a fairly newly appointed member of the Security Branch, he was a constable, he did not form part of the inner core of the investigation team. Mr Netshivale was not involved in any decision making, he was ... MR NAIDOO: Were you the most junior member of the team that went to Mr Kunene's house on the fateful day? MR CORNELIUS: It is common cause that you and the whole team went to a specific bridge outside Nelspruit, this is near the Khanyamazaan Road? MR HANEKOM: He is one of the Attorney-General's Investigative Team from Pretoria. MR BURGER: No, that specific answer is incorrect Chairperson, and I blame my legal team for that. When we came out of the gate van der Berg who was in charge at that time would take the team out with our shoes. He beat me again on my face and I fell down but I got up again and followed the others. All day I was not able to really understand what was going on I was simply observing as I was ... end up at that but also in his clear vision he appointed a chairperson whom he very carefully selected and I would like to commend the chairperson so selected by our president together with his team for the job they have done in conducting the hearings at this Truth and Reconciliation Commission so ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Vally, I just want to indicate that at some stage I need to get an indication from the Investigative Team through you, former Minister Roelf Meyer was mentioned here on two occasions at least in a manner that might lead to a finding to his detriment, and I just want to know from ... |
