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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation MR MALINDI: Chairperson, all I'm trying to do is to take Mr Mokhele through some of the arguments he makes in his statement. I don't intend to spend very long on the statement and I'm introducing the witness for the benefit of the Committee and Chairperson, as I may have indicated, our team and ... MR ROSSOUW: Mr Oosthuizen, at the incident where Mr Piet Ntuli died in this bomb explosion, could you just tell the Committee, at that stage you were with the Special Investigation Team in KwaNdebele, what did you do there and what was the purpose of your investigation there? Since it remains integral, we therefore are of the opinion that there is a potential disadvantage, should this opportunity not be granted. I want to bring it to the attention of the Committee that I have spoken telephonically to Captain Holmes, who had been the Investigative Officer in the ... MR SIEBERT: Well, the decision was taken by Colonel Goosen. I was part of the investigative team and, as I understood,it would also boil down to assault by not offering medical assistance. MR FOURIE: Mr de Kock and I - I was his driver that month, we were in Zeerust where we were visiting a team and Mr de Kock then told me that there had been a telephone call that we had to go to Krugersdorp because Col le Roux required assistance there with an incident. Again and his team for providing a security. MR MEKGWE: And also the members of the team. Mapipa joined later, in 1986 when a special investigation team MR VALLY: Can you briefly tell us when you were a member of the Special Operations team in Special Forces in the South African Defence Force? CHAIRPERSON:: When you were doing this were the other members of the investigation team present, some or all of them? Or were you alone, one on one, just you and Mr Posiwa? MR NORTJE: Chairperson, as I recall it and as it took place, we were working in the area, in the Ladybrand vicinity with a team - I know that Bosch and I were working there together at a certain stage, as well as Vermeulen and I. At a certain point Adamson was the group leader. We were working in ... MR POTGIETER: Let me put it to you like this. Well, we are not using the record of the Section 29 investigation, but there was some form of hysteria surrounding the informers of that time. And persons who had been detained, who had contact with Mrs Mandela, that would be her soccer club, were ... MR VAN VUUREN: My direct Commander was Lieut Hechter and he and I and Mr Mamasela worked as a team together, and we received our instructions directly from Brig Cronje, who at that stage was the Divisional Commander of Security Branch Northern Transvaal. And it happened to me in the Harms Commission that at some stage I stayed away from the Harms Commission when I had to lead evidence because I said that I had a problem with the Harms Commission and then the government, by 10 o'clock that evening, would tell me that they would withdraw my legal ... "PJS and Verryn met with crisis team again at 3 p.m." If I may turn finally to the transformation of the bank. The water shed event in the history of the DBSA was the announcement in December 1994 by the then deputy Minister of Finance, Alec Irwin, of the formation of a transformation team under the chairmanship of Prof Nkushlu. MR VAN ZYL: Yes, he wanted to continue with this matter. I was not surprised that they could not complete the first incident. If you take the other four members of the team, they have never seen those premises before, it was just a question that he wanted to test me and to establish whether they ... They then started asking us questions as to what was happening at Chesterville and what problems we had. We then explained to them what problems that we had. Our major problem was the police, we explained and the vigilante group, the group that was called A Team, which group was assisted quite a ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) this matter now. At a convenient time would you make whatever documents you may have to Mr Hugo and see whether you can collate those documents and see whether they tie up with the sequential numbering of the documents that were supposed to have been in the docket. And ... This is a crucial document, this document it is then said was taken to the police. On arrival with - and that is what I’m trying to discover, without apparently any other communication the team was simply chased away with the police referring to the affidavit that this team has now come to hand ... |
