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APLAExplanation Showing 321 to 340 of 356 First Page•Previous Page 10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 Next Page•Last Pagegave permission against APLA Forces, you recall their people being shot at that occasion, but not all cases Botswana in connection with Apla arms. The PAC army. I was arrested by Nkosi Mutisana and Kleynhans. They took me to Vereeniging and De Deur and from De Deur they took me to Pretoria Central. There I was a very sick man. I was bleeding from my private parts and in my anus as well. I asked the ... GEN VAN DER WESTHUIZEN: Yes, we knew the four pillars of the revolution, the strategy for people's war. The first pillar was manifested by MK, to a lesser extent by APLA. This was more aimed at the ANC/SACP alliance. Those were the soldiers of the revolutionary forces. We call them terrorists. MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, the members that we had caught of MK or of APLA would then be handed over to the local Security Branch, they would do the questioning, they would do the identifying and they either recruit them or they would look at court cases and if it is not maybe related to other case. Evidently from the applicant's evidence it was APLA strategy to kill the farmers to further their political objectives. In other words it appears from the evidence of the applicants that the act they committed, namely the killing of Mr Fourie, was a strategy aimed at overthrowing the government ... Don't you there say that clearly Mr Biko was connected in a conspiracy to overthrow the State by violence and you mentioned the organisations, Umkonto We Sizwe, APLA and BCM, do you see that? ... diligent planning and goodwill enabled the relatively painless process with which the six forces, joined shortly after the elections by APLA as the seventh, unified in the National Defence Force on the eve of the national democratic elections in April ... MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, he would have been shot in the head, there is no doubt about that. As I've given evidence before, there were instances in which our members shot an MK or an Apla and even though you knew he was dead you'd still fire two extra shots to the head to make sure that he was dead. ... above ground so that you can probe it, every issue of it, it was all done on a need to know on an underground basis, both from the side of the ANC, APLA, South African Police, the Army and everyone that participated in this. So in that situation Sir I say that it's not a normal situation where ... The policemen were kidnapped, and a number of firearms were taken during the raid. The telephone lines were cut, and the applicants wrote the words APLA on the wall and in the charge office so as to confuse the police who would later investigate that ... MR MPSHE: We listened to the evidence earlier on thatthe political organisations that were operative in the area wereANC, PAC and perhaps Apla and it was said that Inkatha was notoperative in the area. MS MAYA: That is all sir, thank you. Doris Twabu. Ma'am, you are going to tell us about your son who joined APLA, when to Lesotho in August 1982, is that so? ADV MOTATA: I just want clarity there. Whilst you were in prison you were not a trained APLA member, wouldn't I be correct in assuming that? the Commissioners, I think it was around September or October in 1980. That was the time when members of the PAC were released and other members of APLA they were led by Sabilo Kweta. He use to be known as Sabilo Palmer. We use to know each other from Kangaluza High School, that is myself and ... ADV BIZOS: Yes, and you know and you and your co-applicant have told us that MK still had arms, there was Operation Vula, you knew that APLA was armed, you knew that at least some of the neighbouring states were in favour of the liberation movements, did you and your co-applicant discuss all this ... ... BOOI: No, I don't disagree with you in that but I'm just going further that they were not operating on their own solely as the turned guerrillas of APLA and MK but they were operating under the command of white policemen and soldiers as a group of askaris, so you dubbed them all as askaris when ... What if he was a member of MK or APLA, Mr Venter? ... of questions just to clarify issues. You said that your son Frans Molefe he went into exile in 1990, was that to be trained? Was he trained as an Apla ... MR TEMBE: Ntlantla did not chair the meeting, a mistake was committed there. He is a member of APLA and he was Mr Makwetu's bodyguard. He did arrive whilst we were at the beach, but I do not know what time he left. And he did not chair any meeting either. The Applicants are the Commanders of the then Azanian People's Liberation Army (APLA), the military wing of the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania (PAC). |