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APLAExplanation DR KNOBEL: Understanding we - we understood under that heading that the potential threat would be coming with engagements between South African forces and Cuban forces and Apla forces - no I beg your pardon, MPLA forces in Angola ...(intervention) ... Force Military Intelligence they concentrated to a large extent on the activities of what was perceived to be a military threat, Umkhonto weSizwe, Apla, dissident elements maybe from those groupings. We concentrated on the ANC. We concentrated on Sanco. There were numerous incidents, more ... ... form from the prison which he completed with the assistance of Thabiso Makwala, a fellow inmate and member of the Azanian Peoples Liberation Army ("APLA") who has since died. He was at first reluctant to submit an amnesty application, but was eventually persuaded to do so by his comrades. He ... ... testified to before the Human Rights Violations Committee and I believe Mr Lax was a Commissioner at the time, or a member of that Committee, by APLA, by the ANC, by everybody to say that we acted in that time on the spur of the moment, we didn't have time to reconsider. We, thinking back ... * was a member of the PAC and its military wing APLA at the time of the commission of the three acts he seeks amnesty for; and that he Having the circumstances of that time, not of what Mr Mlambo was speaking, trying to justify the killing of farmers in order to collect money for what he says. Where was Mr Mlambo in 1982 and 1984? Was there an APLA presence in South Africa at all at the time, Mr Chairman? MNR DE KOCK: "Nee, Voorsitter, dis toe 'n huis aangeval was van ANC lede, van APLA lede, waar daar ook 'n tweeling doodgeskiet is, mense van 'n baie jeugdige ouderdom. Op daai stadium, as my geheue my reg bedien, was oud President, mnr de Klerk, besig om die Nobel prys vir vrede te kry, in Oslo. ... MR KHUMALO: I will repeat what I have stated before. Prior to 1988, this intention of the desire to go to Lusaka had been with me. I knew about MK, APLA and other organisations prior to 1988, it was something that I knew before this time. I even informed Mr Archie Gumede after my detention that ... MR BARNARD: Chairperson, the one was Jan Shoba who was a PAC/APLA Commander. What happened there was that it was during the time of the Waverley House, and in one of my co-ordinating sessions there was a computer printout, Mr Jan Shoba's name was on it and there was another brochure from a Hancock ... "Communism in South Africa is alive and well and the mobilisation will oppose the blatant challenge of the ANC, SACP, APLA, through coordinated action and resistance, where necessary, in the interests of our people, our freedom and our country." ... Police Intelligence agent in the media. Now, is thus the time to challenge all other individuals and organisations such as the ANC, MK, PAC, APLA, etc, to do the same and to come clean on their agents in the media, both past and present. Just as it evokes suspicion that after resigning as ... ADV SANDI: Yes, but just tell me, what was the normal practice if you turn an MK or APLA cadre to work for you and leave his own organisation, would you not give him your own codename and not continue calling him by the same name he was using whilst in that liberation movement? MR LAX: Did you only work on MK cases or did you work on PAC cases, APLA cases as well? ... targets changed, we have to focus on the SACP, then we have to focus on MK, then we are not allowed to go close to them, then we have to focus on APLA. There was also a problem with funding, we could not get hold of the funds that we were used ... TRC to understand the PAC as to what had happened during the attacks of the Azanian People’s Liberation army, that it was not only because of PAC or APLA were blood thirsty warmongers, it was also because of what had happened in the past. As I’ve already indicated that we left the country, many ... My view is that the matter I don't think can be concluded properly without - unless of course there is no indication that they are going to or want to give evidence but I don't think the matter can be properly concluded without hearing something from the APLA high command. |