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informer and as an askari since 1988, some two years at least prior to his demise. It is not in our submission terribly relevant to find out what his whereabouts were other than to know that in the period of two years Chairperson, he must have gained substantial knowledge of the workings and the ...

... and that was to meet Roelf Venter, who was then a lieutenant and Captain Naude. My objective at that time was to interrogate a captured new Askari. I remember the man was cooperative. Then the last time I was at Vlakplaas was some months before Janine's ...

CHAIRPERSON: Was this informer, Mr Mathebula, an askari?

might just highlight something. This deals with the fact that you went to CR Swart Square and that you met Mr Ndaba there under arrest, and that an askari had arrested him, or that askaris had arrested him, and that you received information from Botha, that Ndaba was indeed an informer of his, is ...

MS LOCKHAT: So you were an askari, abducted by the South African Police, and you regarded yourself as a soldier after that. Can you comment on that?

MR LAMEY: That is correct. You also say in your statement that afterwards there was identification by means of an askari, is it of that person?

Lastly Mr Chairman, just a remark which was made by you to Mr Ngubane, regarding askaris. An askari per definition of our past, was a person who had previously been a member or supporter of the ANC or another liberation movement, who had been turned to use that expression and who was applied ...

... arrested in January 1987, soon after his return to South Africa. After being held in custody and allegedly being tortured, he agreed to become an askari. He was based at Vlakpaas under Col De Kock. He had come to Durban as part of operations to identify and arrest other MK and APLA ...

... could recall. The evidence of de Kock and others and that of the fifth applicant, S.J. Visser, as to whether Msibi was eventually turned into an Askari differs substantially. It is however clear that De Kock’s association with Msibi had come to an end much earlier than that of S.J. Visser and ...

MR CORNELIUS: Did you know it was an Askari?

MR NKOSI: No, I didn't know his name. And during our arrest in 1988, Webster was separated from us and during the trial in Delmas Webster, according to the information I got, he was a State witness who ended up working with the police, who ended up being an Askari member.

MR NIEUWOUDT: I cannot remember that, the only Askari that I knew who was present was Moss whom I knew personally.

He further testified that he became disillusioned with the ANC and deserted them. It is common cause that he became an Askari.

... of casualties and particularly conscript casualties was becoming very, very high and one can see this in the rate of casualties between Operation Askari and the ones that came earlier. It was just a quantum leap and the SADF was hypersensitive to White conscription. I don't think anti-White ...

... Police, and he was captured when his ammunition was finished. Later he was taken to Mafekeng and interrogated and later he decided to join the Askari group and now he has crossed the floor and was working with the 'system'. ...

... and unsatisfactory. He said that what he was trying to convey in his statement of 2 October 1997 was that he only became aware of the name "askari" after the killing. This explanation is plainly contradicted by what is stated in the statement which is quoted in the preceding paragraph. ...

MR ROBERTSHAW: I saw him, he was an askari. Hatiso Kadi was an askari and he often came to Ladybrand.

MR MOLEFE: That is correct and from the evidence it appears that he in actual fact crossed sides in that he apparently became an Askari. This particular person apparently also had a lot to do with this particular incident in that he's the one who provided Mr Toka with the intelligence report. ...

MR BIZOS: We are discussing this case, that is why we believe that introducing examples of other situations like the askari. The askari may be between the devil and the deep blue sea. He may have to go to jail if he doesn't listen to his captors or - but we are dealing with these particular ...

of Vlakplaas was no longer the political playing field. I was requested to go over so that I could remove the Vlakplaas members, which included the Askari members from the political arena to the criminal arena, which I then did and as soon as the 24th of March 1991 an abridged course was ...