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askariExplanation Showing 201 to 220 of 325 First Page•Previous Page 7 •8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 Next Page•Last PageLastly Mr Chairman, just a remark which was made by you to Mr Ngubane, regarding askaris. An askari per definition of our past, was a person who had previously been a member or supporter of the ANC or another liberation movement, who had been turned to use that expression and who was applied ... ... evidence that he has given today was a simple version and that is basically that in the light of the position that he occupied at Vlakplaas as an askari, he only received information to go to Soutpan, he would receive his further instructions there. When he arrived there he received further ... MR TSOLO: He was an askari, Chairperson. until 1986. On the day in question, he and Jimmy Mbane were deployed at the taxi rank at the Baragwanath Hospital in Soweto. They were both former askaris who had been appointed as members of the South African Police. They were in search of liberation force operatives or illegal arms. At some ... MR HUGO: But that you were attached to Vlakplaas, not in the capacity of an askari, but that you were a regular member of the Police, as it was then known? "... the applicant instructed Joe Mamasela, an askari member of the Security Police, to infiltrate the ANC and to find out whether they were awaiting weaponry to be used against the police. He was also instructed not to influence them to ask for weapons, but those asking for weapons, would be ... MR MSIBI: Those are blue lies. I only heard about the Askari reports here. I don't even know what the meaning of that word is, I don't even know whence it came from. told the TRC that their missing children had last been seen in the company of Mrs Madikizela-Mandela and that the TRC had received evidence from the askari who had killed these children and had not called on him to speak in public, Mr Leon was informed that the TRC by means of Mr Patrick Kelly, ... 1. Conspiracy to murder an askari known only as Stewart and MR BOOYENS: Now, a further risk with a former askari talking, was of course the fact that there were still askaris in the service of the police, is that correct? MS P BERLIN:: So, can you tell us a bit about Vlakplaas hierarchy in paragraph 23, I understand that you became an Askari, and under whom did you fit into the Vlakplaas hierarchy, who was your commander? MR TSOLO: He was an askari, Chairperson. MR LAMEY: If we study the Sikhakane matter which will be heard in the future, it is an askari from Natal and Vlakplaas was asked to act? ... that on a certain day he was called by de Kock to his office. There he found him in the company of Bosch and Japie Kok. Flores came there with an askari, Chris Mogopa, an ex-PAC cadres. De Kock told him that there was a mission to carry out in Swaziland. He wanted Flores and Mogopa to send a ... CHAIRPERSON: But don't we know that Vlakplaas was eliminating, even evidence we've heard for the past three years is that even if an askari was deviant, Mr de Kock wouldn't hesitate to take him out or eliminate him, to use the words used in the "omsendbriewe"? of Vlakplaas was no longer the political playing field. I was requested to go over so that I could remove the Vlakplaas members, which included the Askari members from the political arena to the criminal arena, which I then did and as soon as the 24th of March 1991 an abridged course was ... MR BIZOS: We are discussing this case, that is why we believe that introducing examples of other situations like the askari. The askari may be between the devil and the deep blue sea. He may have to go to jail if he doesn't listen to his captors or - but we are dealing with these particular ... ... they hope that it will be known not only in this room, but in public as well, especially where they live in KwaMashu, that Mr Dion Cele was not an askari or an informer, because all along they've been harassed by the community they live in because there were those rumours that Mr Dion Cele was ... MR DE KOCK: Yes, Mr Chairperson. They were caught in a roadblock on their way to attack an ANC house in Gaborone. It came from an askari, or no, sorry, not an askari but from a terrorist or ANC MK member that we caught in Durban that morning. He was caught by members of Vlakplaas. That MK ... MR BIZOS: We are discussing this case, that is why we believe that introducing examples of other situations like the askari. The askari may be between the devil and the deep blue sea. He may have to go to jail if he doesn't listen to his captors or - but we are dealing with these particular ... |