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CHAIRPERSON: Was this true with every askari you had at Vlakplaas, Mr de Kock? They had betrayed you once and now they had turned?

MR LAMEY: Mr Snyman also specifically refers in his application to the involvement of an askari. Is it possible that an Askari was mentioned?

... and you describe in broad terms the type of training, the type of operations and in general terms the manner in which you were utilised as an askari at Vlakplaas, is that ...

MR HATTINGH: Indeed, yes Mr Chairman. Mr de Kock, the deceased, Mr Brian Ngqulunga, was initially an askari who was connected to Vlakplaas, is that correct?

MR LOTZ: After he had returned two other people, Faku, Shepherd who was an Askari and Duka were in the vehicle ...[intervention]

... 3, on page 2 of Exhibit M, that during 1989, Col de Kock informed you that an operation was being planned in Swaziland and that the plan was for an askari from Vlakplaas, whose name you can no longer recall, to make contact with persons in Swaziland. Is that ...

MR DE KOCK: Yes, I think he was an askari, if I think about it now. That is why there wouldn't be a record about him.

"... and I, through Duiwel, had hung an askari and he died."

MR MOSIANE: Chairperson at that time I was an askari. I was under the control of the South African Police Services, under C1 Unit, which was in Head Quarters.

MR HUGO: Did Mr De Kock at any stage indicate an Askari or

CHAIRPERSON: Yes, I think maybe we should clarify that. I think you are right, it seems to me on the papers that there was a Black member of the security branch who would normally not be regarded as an Askari.

... me. We were in the epicentre of the Harms Commission and the earthquakes that followed. And to inform you, we also eliminated Brian Ngqulunga, an askari from Vlakplaas, because it seemed as if he wanted to walk over to the ANC's side. And in this case it was about the protection of the members ...

MR HATTINGH: Yes, but whoever had abducted him, I think there may have been one askari involved, let's leave it at that, the people who abducted him, had not disguised themselves?

... any more".  At no state was he present during the operation.  He was, however, aware that the person would be killed if not recruited as an ...

MR HATTINGH: Was he a police member or a so called Askari?

... stage. Early in 1982 he was busy with investigation work and the finding of terrorists in the Soweto region. He received information from a new Askari who handed himself over to the police after he received training ...

MR VISSER: And that would be as an Askari?

MR BEESLAAR: No it is not really correct, it would be an askari or as I have already stated, a returning terrorist who had been rehabilitated, because an informer was something quite different.

MR ROSSOUW: And that was your duty as a so-called askari at Vlakplaas, to identify other MK members and to try and recruit them.

MR MAMASELA: The same thing that happened to my colleague and my friend and my fellow Askari, Brian Mulunga, would have happened exactly to me because we were involved in the Harmse Commission together and he was killed for attempting to expose those lies.