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CasspirExplanation ... time we knew that those people who were called ...(indistinct), they were members of the IFP. Unfortunately at that time the police arrived in a Casspir, together with the soldiers. That is how Johannes escaped, that is why he's still alive, even ... MR MNYANDU: On of those policemen called Vusi and said he should tell his friends to disperse in five minutes. At that time Vusi stood on top of the Casspir and said "Comrades, these boers say you must disperse now". I and other comrades were shocked as to how our comrade can afford to do ... ... time personally, harassing his brother, Charles Ngcobo. He was one of the chaps, I think I mentioned earlier in my evidence, we drove around in a casspir with loudspeakers on during all hours of the night, keeping everybody awake and one of the things, I was driving around, probably for about ... ... I was in the hall, I was in the building of the Learning Centre when that bomb exploded and when I ran out of the building I immediately noticed a Casspir on the scene or close to the scene and within minutes of the bomb exploding there were also policemen and explosives experts on the scene. ... ... at that stage. I went to see them and we made use of their facilities because early morning, before the light of day, we would drive with the Casspir to the bush which was next to the road where we disembarked and went into the bush, where we would be picked up again in the ... MR DE KOCK: Yes, Chairperson, it could be used for a tank or a Casspir, or to fire at police buildings or fuel storage points. I just wish to make an amendment, next to the RPG7 launcher, I stated that this was three times primary charge, it's actually secondary charge. MR FOURIE: After the shooting, I did hear a discussion at the scene, but as far as I can remember those words were uttered after the Casspir vehicle arrived at the scene. I heard a discussion or the words, although I did not see it, but somebody did say that at the scene. MR SINGH: No. I was a driver for them, yes. The casspir and the squad sits inside. For the vehicle and the squads and the firearms and things like that. MR MASINA: Are you referring to the land mine that was detonated by a Casspir? ... I realised that I took my knife and Thozamele also had his knife. I stabbed him and he turned and he ran away and I also ran away. I saw a police casspir outside. I was lying in the graveyard because the people were pursuing me. When the police van left I went home and when I arrived home I ... ... things were happening some of the police were just standing outside the hostel. At the time of the explosion some of those police ran into their Casspir, some ran together with me to hide behind the office which I just explained ... The soldiers came through Mgivani Street, South African Defence Force. When the Casspir approached we saw it and we told the others who were armed to run away. That's when we left the place. "When we got out of the hostel onto the road, we were picked up by a police Casspir driven by a white man whose name I don't know. In the hippo there was Shaga of the security branch; a white policeman known to me as Rooikop who had red hair; Peens and our driver. There were 14 or 15 IFP ... ... Berg. Also Mr van den Berg, I notice from the applications that they only deal specifically with two incidents, one relating to an incident with a Casspir and the other one relating to the incident involving Brigadier Molope but in addition there's mention about other incidents in Annexure A. I ... ... I want to tell you what in general terms he says in this document. He says that the police were involved to the extent he says, that police Casspirs or he says a police Casspir was used to transport some of the attackers, including himself into Boipatong. Now do you say that that is a ... ... whose identity is unknown, attempted murder of an unknown number of policemen whose identities are unknown, the theft of a motor vehicle known as a Casspir, the murders of an unknown number of people at the Katuza Hostel, the attempted murders of an unknown number of occupants of Katuza Hostel, ... ... who were patrolling that area were supporting the ANC. They then got involved in this ploy to throw apples and oranges I think inside the police casspir, and then the police got worried about this, anyway a deal was struck eventually whereby the army, should I say, started assisting them in ... ... policemen. They attacked police stations. Policemen could for example not move into a residential area without being in an armed vehicle, like a Casspir. So it did play a significant ... ... the Police will say whatever they want to say at any stage. We all know that for instance in the Boipatong massacre, Police accounted for all the casspirs in South Africa, but one Policeman came and said he was in Boipatong with a casspir. I believe that the information contained in that fax, ... In the case of Mr de Klerk, it was Rex vs the Truth. Mr de Klerk had to seek refuge in a Casspir. He didn’t - another matter that needs to be solved are those Boers in the, on death row. Mr de Klerk was at Ventersdorp during the darkest crisis in our nation’s history, when all of us doubted ... |