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collaboratorExplanation ... I had no reason to think that Mr Vlok would have hesitated in informing Mr Botha about this and if one asks the question: "Would you not make him a collaborator"?, I did not consider this question any further but my impression was that in any case at that stage there was such a situation which ... MR JOSEPH: And having identified a person as a collaborator, having identified a person as being an informer, identified a person as a traitor? MR PRETORIUS: Chairperson, we regarded someone as a full member of MK, if he had received training abroad, military training. As I have stated, I think the correct word would be that he was a collaborator with MK, he assisted MK and co-operated with them. CHAIRPERSON: You were second in command. Do you know whether in this case there was any verification conducted? Since you would have us believe that you wouldn’t act on a wild rumour or one of your comrades pointing out somebody as being an IFP member or collaborator. specific reason, because he was linked to the ANC, I would also have done that with Nkosi, because he could also have been a member of the ANC, or a ... "It was very often quite sufficient to be merely suspected of being a sell-out of collaborator in order to pay the ultimate price in the most dreadful manner". MR CRAUSE: I stated here that he was a suspected ANC collaborator who would only report certain information if it suited him. He did not report it, I regarded him as someone, who for his own gain, would report information if it suited him. MR MALAN: They did not ask your opinion as to whether he was a sympathiser or a collaborator or hiding anything? He was a very close colleague and collaborator with Mahatma Ghandi and the two of them organised a number of campaigns in the latter part of last century and the early part of this century. My grandfather has got a proud record of going to prison fourteen times. In fact on the fourteenth time ... GEN NYANDA: Well I suppose because Mr Tshabalala was the major of Soweto and at that time there was a general campaign against what we referred to as collaborators and he was certainly regarded as a collaborator as the mayor of Soweto. ... still alive then. They got information such a person worked with the police, now he shows a photo and says that because that person possibly was a collaborator of the police, that he must be ... MR BOOYENS:: Now, you had been a member of the, if I say a member of the South African Police, I use it in the broad sense of the word, I am talking about as an Askari or a collaborator of the police for how many years? GEN VAN DER MERWE: Well the information that we have now is that Jackie Quin was a collaborator, but she was not involved herself in acts of violence. purpose. Whether it was the intent or not, they committed an act which removed from society a person who was perceived as a collaborator. That is a fact. That is what actually happened. Now having done that, having done that, the question is: that act and other similar acts, was there general ... ... from their houses and acting as a policeman by wrongfully arresting people in some cases for petty crimes. He was therefore seen as an apartheid ... ... to clinical teaching material and gross human rights violations that were going on all the time. Yet the Medical Faculty was not a monolithic collaborator. Aside from individuals in the Faculty frequently including the leadership of the Faculty, the Faculty created committees such as the ... ... acted on the order of General Ras and under the instruction of Captain Loots against a person that they believed to be an enemy of the State and collaborator with the ANC. They conceded that they had no instructions to kill Irene Motasi and they testified that they didn't foresee or ordered ... ... expressed whether Japie Maponya had been a member or a supporter of the ANC, I submit with respect that he could at least have been regarded as a collaborator through his conduct of protecting his brother Ordereli against arrest by the police and Ordereli was involved in political violence ... ... but I am narrowing to politics. As to the related question, why afterwards did they not tell the ANC of their fatal mistake in killing an ANC collaborator, the answers are that they were shocked as they said, by this. Maybe they felt so ashamed of having done so, that they resorted to ... MR PRINSLOO: If I could arrest the group of terrorists, it would mean more to me and then yes, he would be charged as a collaborator, so then the evidence would be there. |