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collaboratorExplanation MR CRAUSE: I stated here that he was a suspected ANC collaborator who would only report certain information if it suited him. He did not report it, I regarded him as someone, who for his own gain, would report information if it suited him. MR PRETORIUS: Chairperson, we regarded someone as a full member of MK, if he had received training abroad, military training. As I have stated, I think the correct word would be that he was a collaborator with MK, he assisted MK and co-operated with them. GEN NYANDA: Well I suppose because Mr Tshabalala was the major of Soweto and at that time there was a general campaign against what we referred to as collaborators and he was certainly regarded as a collaborator as the mayor of Soweto. MR CALLAGHAN: An ordinary civilian, yes, who at the time had been suspected of being a collaborator and which at the end of interrogation it was deemed by Koevoet members that he had no connections at all. ... approval of an organisation, institution, body or liberation movement of which the person committing the offence was a member or a supporter or a collaborator and then also furthermore, the connection between the offence and the proximity of the context and the proportionality between the ... GEN VAN DER MERWE: Well the information that we have now is that Jackie Quin was a collaborator, but she was not involved herself in acts of violence. ... confess were usually sent to detention camps. Now what happened to a poor fellow who is innocent and he says: "I'm not an informer, I was never a collaborator with the enemy", he tells the ANC in Lusaka that, is he also one that is sent to a detention camp because he refuses to ... ... from their houses and acting as a policeman by wrongfully arresting people in some cases for petty crimes. He was therefore seen as an apartheid ... ... acted on the order of General Ras and under the instruction of Captain Loots against a person that they believed to be an enemy of the State and collaborator with the ANC. They conceded that they had no instructions to kill Irene Motasi and they testified that they didn't foresee or ordered ... MR JOSEPH: And having identified a person as a collaborator, having identified a person as being an informer, identified a person as a traitor? ... were out to kill a certain girl by the surname of Mabasa. I had interfered and tried to mediate in that conflict and by doing so, I was labelled a collaborator with the family of that girl and thereafter there was word out that I should also be ... specific reason, because he was linked to the ANC, I would also have done that with Nkosi, because he could also have been a member of the ANC, or a ... MR LAMEY: So what you're saying, if - do I understand the gist of your evidence here correctly, that Mr Koole is deliberately implicating you in the theft of that watch because he's still a collaborator with the white security policemen? ... were with them, wasn't there just to get an opportunity, a lift or something, this person would then be associated with the persons, he could be a collaborator and I'm not trying to defend anyone. This is my personal view and what I have experienced and now I will say to myself, I now have to ... purpose. Whether it was the intent or not, they committed an act which removed from society a person who was perceived as a collaborator. That is a fact. That is what actually happened. Now having done that, having done that, the question is: that act and other similar acts, was there general ... ... had already chosen their side. By the mere virtue of being a police and being on the other side of race, we would take you as a traitor and a collaborator. And when the era came that we should read of policeman who were residing with us, stooges, informers and all that, it is then that we ... ... who had very little or no defence or protection inthis regard. It was very often quite sufficient to be merely suspectedof being a sell-out or collaborator in order to pay the ultimateprice in the most dreadful manner. With the notable exceptionof a few cases where a perpetrator was caught ... MR BOOYENS:: Now, you had been a member of the, if I say a member of the South African Police, I use it in the broad sense of the word, I am talking about as an Askari or a collaborator of the police for how many years? "It was very often quite sufficient to be merely suspected of being a sell-out of collaborator in order to pay the ultimate price in the most dreadful manner". ... in Lusaka. I will continue this subversive communist document in London and let you have the rest in due course. Greetings, Comrade Dirk and the collaborator, ... |