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comradesExplanation Showing 361 to 380 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 15 •16 •17 •18 •19 •20 •21 •22 •23 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: And those other comrades of yours that didn't come too close, do you know who they were? ... how did it come about that not the whole unit was involved in all the operations? In other words you were only involved in some and some of your comrades were involved in others without you being there, how did that come about that you weren't involved in all these operations? Did that depend ... that we should execute this action towards the Fidelity Guards, so we may be able to fund raise and that will enable us to set free one of the other comrades who was kept in hospital. One other thing that he mentioned was that we could disarm those people if the situation presents itself ... ... trained people with ammunition on them, but I submit that his attack on the police, being a defensive attack, was solely intended to defend his comrades who were all together there, all of them went to this house for one reason, to hide from certain forces which were attacking or harassing ... ... He was the only person who shot anybody. He did not hear anyone ask them if they were Zulu but fired at people who were armed to protect his comrades. He later denied he heard any shots. When questioned further he denied taking part in the throwing out of the bodies as he was not fit ... MR DEHAL: After this training you returned again to Angola and then went - made your way to Swaziland. Whilst in Swaziland you met with Ralph and Charles Ndaba, two comrades who were also MK members? we were to carry out this operation. On this day I was ordered by the commander to come to his place. On my arrival I found him sitting with other comrades mentioned above. He then briefed us on the operation that was to be carried out. The car to be used was already parked in the yard. He ... In Johannesburg we met our contact, Mr Topane Mswadi. He took us to a safe place at Orlando West, Pethene(?), where we stayed until the other two comrades we left at Bulawayo, arrived with arms. MR NOOSI: As I've just mentioned that I was in the position of authority. It was reported by our comrades who were guarding the camp, that I will not remember when it was but it could have between 1981 and 1984/85 because I left the camp in 1986. It was reported that he was not co-operating in ... Do you still recall that in August 1963 Mzizi was arrested together with his other comrades? --- Yes, I was present at that time when they got arrested by the past regime. I was expectant at that time. MR LAX: Could I ask a question? If you had a problem with this deceased, why didn't you just call him before the Comrades Committee of MK as existed in most places, and arrange for him to be disciplined according to your code? If he was a comrade who was behaving badly, why didn't you just call ... MR NYAWUZA: So family members of - are you saying family members of Mr Dlamini, or fellow comrades of Mr Dlamini? ... and a theologian, my understanding of reconciliation is that it is pretty pricey, it has cost Jesus Christ his life, it has cost Leon and the other comrades their lives, but let me not dwell on that, let me go straight into how I remember Leon Lionel ... 1981 or 1980 I can’t recall well, he once more found himself in a position where he had to leave the University of the North with a number of his comrades, if one could I quote one or two, Maku Ramathlodi, Tom Kwane and others who had to leave because of their perceived their pressure by ... MR VISSER: In his statement, in paragraph 35 and onwards, Mr Lengene states that some of his comrades in Botswana at that stage, had already been captured and prosecuted with regard to acts that they had committed there and he was afraid that he would also be put in jail by the Botswana ... MR VISSER: Mr Lengene also said with reference to the visit to Pretoria, where he spoke to Mr Hershveld, he indicated that at that stage his comrades in Botswana were fond guilty in Botswana and were sentenced to 11 years concerning the activities around vehicle theft, what do you say to that? ... and I phoned me again and I tried to phone him and then a child answered the phone and I asked where Shimi was and then the child told me that the comrades were after ... MR KOOPEDI: Do you know if your other comrades used the weapons they had with them? ... rather Mr Sylvester and Mr Katha entered the shebeen and he met me at the door. I asked him why he entered the shebeen with a pistol because we as comrades were not allowed to enter such places with guns and at that time other people came and he ran ... CHAIRPERSON: Ja, but if it was - wasn't it paramount to protect them, seeing that you were all comrades? Why not give false names? Because the fact that you gave names, meant that they all now got into trouble. |