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councillorsExplanation ... not know who was where and why especially with the JMC that he referred to, the Joint Management Centre that was developing here with some of the councillors, some of the community people, individuals and others involved on that side. It seems as if part of the community then or some of the ... ... Now, when you defined your targets, as you have already explained in your statement, you said that your targets was that you were against apartheid councillors as well as vigilante groups. What was troubling you about those groups, why did you specifically choose them to be your targets? What ... evidence about Kagiso and Cosas and the residents associations etc and what the activities were and what the approach or what their attitude towards councillors and policemen were because obviously the argument that I'm presenting is that some room must be given for the fact that Mr Musi is ... ... been allowed to just go on without any intervention, on the evidence of Coetzee, on what Mfalapitsa told him in regard to Nkosi and all the black councillors, the consequences which Brig Schoon talks about might well have become a reality, not to say the least of the lives of these people which ... MR DUMA JOSHUA KHUMALO: According to our knowledge the councillors were working for the boers. Now so that there MR STEENKAMP: Did you lodge any attacks as far as you know, against any Inkatha Freedom Party structures or people or councillors, as far as you know? "There was a dispute in the area between IFP member who were led by chiefs and councillors of the area, you called them Umtwalumi tribe and the UDF, the Umtwalumi Youth League, which was formed by yourself." MR NGWENYA: I would say the situation was very tense in the township. It was not possible to move freely about the township and they were colluding with the Councillors. ... see people who left their houses to work, their families are not protected. In our discussions with the Chief and the community, the Chief and his Councillors rejected our offer but we told them that we understand what they’re saying but we said to them, we are going to continue with our work ... MR MANTHATA: Did you go to the councillors to investigate MR LUKHELE: They were referring to power stations, houses belonging to policemen and councillors. ... got to identify targets like policemen, SADF members, those individuals perceived to be collaborating, colluding with the apartheid system. The councillors, we then regarded them as legitimate targets. So it's upon individuals, when inside the country, that they can identify those targets, ... We got there at a time where there was tension and at the time where I say, in 1987 my house was burnt. Whereas on the other side, the Government was establishing Councillors and also Council police in the form of municipal police. ... state agents, and chain of command. The victims classified as legitimate targets need to be specified (e.g. SAP, kitskonstables, SADF, community councillors). This information would ... MR THULU: During that time when everything was happening,there was a march organised to the councillors' offices. Thecommunity of Maokeng was complaining about the arrears, that theydo not even know about the high payments of the electricity, asif they were operating factories. As we were ... MR MFAZWE: Then, people say that this meeting ended with the councillors being stoned and then the following morning ... association was seen to work in co-operation with the police, or giving evidence to the police or working in co-operation with the apartheid local Councillors, they were seen as "impimpis" and enemies of the liberation ... DR MANDELL: Thank you very much Chairperson, Councillors, thank you very much for giving us the privilege of being with you at this very important occasion in the last two days. We are extremely concerned about the past and spending the whole day with you yesterday it was something which all of us ... referring to councillors, and no, I am not arguing the legitimacy, the non- MR SANDI: What was the cause of the disharmony? Who was leading the township all in all? Were there councillors within the organisation. |
