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hostelsExplanation MR DLAMINI: As I've said, I would be involved in so many things that some of them I don't recall but I may agree or admit that I was part of this. I see here as it reads there was never time when we will get opportunity to get inside the hostels so I really bear no knowledge of this particular one. ... Beulah was using some means by conducting rallies there. The people who were there were not residents of Zone 7. They were coming from the hostels, as well as in Sebokeng Hostel there weren't any members of the IFP. What I could say is the community, because the people who were affected ... ... one lady went to call Mr Xulu, and then they were talking together now that, "Oh, here's one person who's also on the list, and then they went to hostels to call others. Most of the people who killed my husband they didn't even know my husband. They were new employees of that mine. They ... CHAIRPERSON: You say that one component of this was the presence of the Security Forces, was that the only nature of violence that we are talking about, or was there also violence between residents of the townships and people in the hostels? ... like to know from you, what purpose would be served by the disarming of the police in the light of what you've said there that the attacks on the hostels had ... ... with ANC, therefore members of IFP resigned from NUMSA. Those who were hostel dwellers, who were still members of the Union, were harassed at the hostels. As I've already stated that the train sector structure, in the morning we used to toyi-toyi in the trains and then even after work we used ... and his friends would rely on. The fact that there was a political turmoil in the area, it is not good enough a reason for anyone to go out of the hostels and go about shooting people and robbing people. It is also clear in our minds here that a reason was given for the alleged order which ... Did you, on that morning, did you receive any specific information in respect as to what was happening at the hostels? ... While we were still barricading the streets, we were at Everest, just opposite the Gadebe Section. Most unfortunately, the members from the hostels and the members from the community collided. When the hostel dwellers saw a large number of people from the township coming, they ran away. ... briefly say that there was a conflict in 1990. We were a united group of Inkatha and ANC members and when all this started there were fights in the hostels and people ran away to the Vusunzi Hostel and we remained in the Tafani Hostel. That was in ... People like Sam Ntuli, Dan Pumselo Mbatha and Tshabalala have already died at that time. That is where we formulated the SDU structures. Those people who were near the hostels, came to our sections and at times, they were threatened to join the IFP. the Committee. There was violence in Thokoza. I was staying in the hostel. I arrived there in 1986. I was working in the mines. I stayed in the hostels and in 1990 violence started. I was running a business and one morning in 1990 in the hostel some of the people were killed there because of ... MR THULO: They would ask questions about people who were not seen regularly near the hostels and they would use Zulu. Then if you are not able to respond in Zulu, therefore you would be attacked, especially when you can tell them that you come from Beirut or Cathrada or Sesulu or other sections, ... MR MNGUNI: I was staying in the township. They only knew - they knew that the IFP members were only in the hostels, they did not know that there were some members in the townships. school-going child and so the message gave instance compliance to all from this and these mobilising actions. However, the men living in single sex hostels were without families or children and did not receive the messages and were seen to be breaking rank from community actions. As they flocked ... Thousands of workers were dismissed and forced out of hostels, Cosatu House was raided in a military operation twice by Police and the Military, even using sniper riflemen. The streets outside our offices were almost barricaded by police on a daily basis, and workers and personnel there were ... One that the large groups could break into smaller groups, and disperse all over and still find their way into KTC, secondly that the use of force could have driven those approaching bezerk in which state they could then have attacked innocent people in nearby hostels or passing cars. MR SHANE: Well Mr Chairman, there is evidence in previous application, that what the police would do for instance, if they didn't shoot members of the SDU, what the police would often do, they would take them to hostels and let them be dealt with by members of the IFP. MR NOSENGA: No, there were meetings called at KwaMadala Hostel and all persons living in the hostels would attend those meetings. ... the wrong office, because that was not the main gate, then we thought that was the main gate but it was a near gate, it was a near entrance to the hostels. So we should have attacked the main gate other side of the mine, so we did not reach that point. So that is why I think we won only one ... |
