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IncorporationExplanation The Gqozo regime did not attend. The majority of delegates identified the policies of the Ciskei regime as an obstacle to peace and stability in the region and a number of proposals were made. One of them was for the formation of an interim administration pending re-incorporation. MS SEROKE: What did you actually take to the court of law? Did you report that you were assaulted or you told them that you had the problem of incorporation? Could you please explain to me. ... Yes, I agree with what you have just said, Imbokhoto was not engaging in the activities that it use to do at first. It was against this law of incorporation. ... ... Yes, I agree with what you have just said, Imbokhoto was not engaging in the activities that it use to do at first. It was against this law of incorporation. ... ... people being in Kwandebele. If you say that the Kwandebele people were peacefully vis a vis the Moutse people I would like to say that before this incorporation story the people were quite peaceful. The Kwandebele people had nothing against the Moutse people and even the Moutse people had ... ... Mr Meyer, will you not spend some time on the different approaches to Moutse. First the exchange of land between Lebowa and KwaNdebele idea, the incorporation of Moutse and, perhaps also, reflect on whether that was not a change of policy. I mean did you have any knowledge at the time or ... DR ALLY: This woman whose house was bombed was she someone who supported the incorporation of Vleifontein into Venda? Was she one of those who wanted this to happen and therefore became a target of the community? DR RANDERA: Elisa, thank you very much for telling us that story. I just want to ask you a few questions. What was your own attitude at the time towards the incorporation of Vleifontein into Venda, were you against it? The fourth phase involved the incorporation of the corridor resulting in such area together with that of Ciskei and Transkei becoming a State known as Xhosaland, the recognition by South Africa of Xhosaland as an independent State and the holding of a general election in Xhosaland. This final ... JUDGE DE JAGER: Yes, but the soldiers of Ramushwana and Ramushwana himself was in favour of incorporation into the RSA? CHAIRPERSON: And the association between incorporation of the area into Boputhatswana was that, did that feature in this whole discussion that you’re talking about now ? MR MATHEBE: Our aims were to help the people of South Africa who were harassed by the police at that time, specifically at Mawudse, they were the people who resisted the incorporation into KwaNdebele, so we were there to help them. When Section 7 of the previous Police Act, that is the original Act, Mr Chairman, 14 of 1912, was amended by substitution with the Police Act, 8 of 1957, the Police duties were amended by the incorporation into Section 5 of the Police Act, to include the maintenance of internal security. ... He opposed them. But we have to look at what, in fact, were those differences and, largely, they revolved around issues like his opposition to incorporation of KwaZulu into the - as an independent homeland ... ... DR RANDERA: We have heard today, earlier on, that 1986 was a period when there was a lot of resistance by the community where you lived against incorporation into Venda. Was the students demonstrating against this and was your son perhaps one of these people as well? ... a refresher course in Angola. In 1986, I infiltrated the country again and I operated in the Mawudse area. There was a problem concerning the incorporation of Mawudse into the then KwaNdebele. My main task was to train the Comrades in the vicinity of Mawudse so that they could resist that ... For the incorporation of Moutse, and I want to criticise someone here, this is my opinion, I did some research with the incorporation of Moutse, there was a serious crises in the coherence of Kwandebele. So they were then divided, they were peaceful, they were a unity, the Kwandebele people are ... ... in Mafikeng, took place on the 11th of March 1994 and the reason being for that was their resistance by the Bophuthatswana government against reincorporation into the broader South Africa, but by the time the elections took place, that question had been settled and Bophuthatswana was indeed ... ... much for coming to speak to us. We have heard so many of these stories of people caught up in this conflict and the tragedy of this decision of incorporation where before that the testimony that we hear is that people lived together quite harmoniously. There may have been tensions and ... GEN VAN DER BANK: Thank you very much. I think even if it went to the extent of saying incorporation now, no but's or if's or anything but incorporation now, to prevent a thing that has happened on that day. Even to go as far as that. And I think if people really wanted to politically solve that ... |