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PEBCO ThreeExplanation ... the question which Mr de Jager asked, I just want to also place on record that it’s not my instructions from the two applicants that any of the Pebco 3 people - or that they saw that any of the Pebco 3 people, were hit a with physical object by anyone which is alleged by Mr ... MR NDZOTOYI: I was General Secretary under the UDF of Pebco, which was responsible for most of the campaigns during the UDF time, including the one that we are talking about here. MR BIZOS: You also made an application for amnesty for the killing of the persons known as the Pebco three? Is that correct? There was also an incident which was described as the PEBCO Three, are you aware of that incident? iv) Other task was to blacklist Pebco and Cosas activists. ... then he would have called us, once he was safe. You may also remember that a couple of months before then there was a gruesome murder of the Pebco three so that sort of like raised a level of vigilance and awareness that may have not been there in years before, so we were quite careful in ... We did not arrest them, they must have escaped and joined the ANC in exile. Isn't that what you said in relation to the Pebco 3? ADV LAMEY: Mr Chairman, before I proceed, may I just refer to the last page of - page 268 of the bundle of papers, you will see that’s there’s an omission with regard to question 11(a) and (b) in Mr Koole’s application with regard to the Pebco incident. MR HATTINGH: And he was also involved in Kondile or the Cradock 4 or the Pebco 3, which one? of this whole argument, to you Mr Chairman, is to say to you, look at the practice in various other situations. Let us look at what happened in the Pebco matter, how that order was given. Let us look at the Khotso/Cosatu House hearing. Let us look at Zero Zero hand grenades. Let us look at a ... 11Hashe, SiphoPebco 3 09/05/85 MR McADAM: I am surprised that at that stage, and we have to look at the Eastern Cape, at that stage suddenly the three leaders of Pebco disappears, a prominent organisation in East London and then Fedora who was behind all the unrest in the Eastern Cape. They were either murdered or disappeared ... ... Two of the acts that are specifically mentioned in the newspaper report, and I’m assuming to that extent the newspaper report is correct, are the PEBCO 3 and the Goniwe matter. They both occurred in the first half of 1985 when the witness was Commissioner of Police, for which he is on record ... MR MTSHAULANA: What did you use to kill the Pebco 3? MR S HUGO:: If I remember your testimony correctly, you applied for three incidents. A person you killed in 1980. And then the Pebco Three incident and then the current incident. Mr Chairman. You will recall that we put to Mr Snyman his application for amnesty in the case of the Goniwe, Kalata and two other deceased and the Pebco 3. The reasons that he gives for having killed Goniwe and the three others and the Pebco 3 are almost a carbon copy of the reasons that he ... It should be noted that the Applicant is not asking amnesty in respect of the killing of the so-called PEBCO 3, Messrs Sipho Charles Hashe, Qaqawuli Godolozi and Champion Galela. He is only asking amnesty in respect of the kidnapping of the three on 8 May 1985 at the airport at Port ... The Committee dealt with the incident known as the PEBCO 3 under Schedule 8 of that decision and stated: You have heard about the agony and the pain and in fact the brutal manner in which the PEBCO 3 was executed. What do you think of the people who were killed in numbers in night vigils where we have pain in double. MR BOOYENS: Pebco. Mr De Kock, we have now discussed the politicians and so forth. But you also heard the testimony here or it would appear that that was more in the information gathering department that was Mr Taylor's testimony that he didn't entrust the soldiers with all the information that ... |
