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people's warExplanation Showing 221 to 240 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 Next Page•Last PageMR RAS: No. He would have known that it would be used in order to kill people, but he wasn't informed specifically about the operation. In considering the relevant criteria set out in section 20(3), we are, moreover, not satisfied that the killings were authorised by Applicants' superiors. In our view, despite the position which might have obtained earlier, De Kock did not have the necessary authority to order such radical ... ... he was referring to the whole crowd or some people within the crowd. Mr Ketile ran inside. The group started dispersing - some people ran back towards Street 8. Other people ran ... CHAIRPERSON: And then he said further that why they had the lunch hour is that people would go out of the building and it would minimise any casualties to civilians. I think you should put your question in perspective. MR SPHAMBO: Around 1980 I became on of the senior staff members of Kibashe, administration. Basically I went there as a counter-intelligence officer for the African National Congress and later I became the Deputy - I became an acting Chief of Staff of the camp. So during that time, it was a time ... MR SANDI: In your statement you said you were there when the people were shot at Bisho and today you are going to tell us about what you saw and what happened to you. I will hand over to you so that you tell the Commission about what happened to you. MRS SIKHOSANA: I thank you. On that day, if my memory serves me right, it was on the seventh. When I got home from the funeral I was cold because my son had been shot by the Councillor. What I was told was that there was no conflict at all. There seems to be a misunderstanding here. What I ... MDUDUZI GUMBI 1ST APPLICANT (AM0350/96) ROBERT ZUMA 2ND APPLICANT (AM0433/96) DECISION ... DR BORAINE: Good. It is nice to see a smile. Mrs Malobola, you are one of many people who were involved in the KwaNdebele massacre where many, many people lost their lives and one of them was your grandson and you have come to tell us your story today. Your heart must be full of pain as you ... After that, a week later, we buried my daughter. There were 11 people who had been shot by the police at the time. They were all buried at 49 Guguletu Stadium. Everton, until the reached Zone 7 on foot because they were using shortcuts. And as I was alone at home I decided to sleep. As I was sleeping since the time he left it was about 7 o'clock, we slept with the children and his wife, at about 4 o'clock in the morning I heard a knock at my door and I ... CHAIRPERSON: ...(start of tape) submissions and a ruling on the question relating to the disclosure of the names of certain people. I notice Mr Dreyer is not here but however this aspect does not really concern him, it's a point that was raised by Ms Monyane and it concerns obviously her and ... CHAIRPERSON: Good morning to you all. I respectfully declare these proceedings opened, this, the 18th day of January 1999. These proceedings being amongst the first to be held by the Truth and Reconciliation's Amnesty Committee in the new year. Before we commence, may I welcome you all and take ... REV XUNDU: Thank you Mam Qhomasi. You have your story here in this statement which is the same as what was said by other people so I am not going to bother you much by asking you to say it again. Except that I would like to confirm whether you were one of those people who were in that crowd and ... MR MATHEBULA: Yes, there were people in Compol who'd intercept the post. They would fetch the post at the post office. ... the book. They came to me and they asked where are others. I said who are you talking about. They then looked under the bed and they opened the wardrobe. ADV SANDI: According to your knowledge, were there reasons for them, for searching for you, for looking for ... No members of the IFP were arrested. However, it was the event of the 25th that lead to the charge and conviction of the applicant for the murder of four people. MR NORTJE: There were plantations and Hanton told me specifically that it wouldn't be a problem to leave the body there because there were not many people in the area and a possibility existed that wild animals would destroy the body ultimately. Elizabeth, but up until now, I didn't see the child. I told these people that I wanted to see my son's child, but they didn't bring the child to me. ... when a Springbok Patrol vehicle passed that place and they could not continue with the robbery. My question to you Mr de Kock is whether you are aware that the first attempt to rob Coin Security took place approximately a day or two before the Carousel ... |
