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people's warExplanation Showing 221 to 240 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 Next Page•Last PageMr Mbali talks of six people. Now the two applicants before you now can shed no light on that and clearly if it happened, we certainly can't deny it. We would say that, with respect, it's very unlikely because if the Lesotho policeman who was the informer knew that what he was doing was ... MR RAS: No. He would have known that it would be used in order to kill people, but he wasn't informed specifically about the operation. No members of the IFP were arrested. However, it was the event of the 25th that lead to the charge and conviction of the applicant for the murder of four people. MR NORTJE: There were plantations and Hanton told me specifically that it wouldn't be a problem to leave the body there because there were not many people in the area and a possibility existed that wild animals would destroy the body ultimately. MR MAKHAWULA: No, I do not remember because I was never close to these people that we were shooting at. MDUDUZI GUMBI 1ST APPLICANT (AM0350/96) ROBERT ZUMA 2ND APPLICANT (AM0433/96) DECISION ... CHAIRPERSON: And then he said further that why they had the lunch hour is that people would go out of the building and it would minimise any casualties to civilians. I think you should put your question in perspective. DR BORAINE: Good. It is nice to see a smile. Mrs Malobola, you are one of many people who were involved in the KwaNdebele massacre where many, many people lost their lives and one of them was your grandson and you have come to tell us your story today. Your heart must be full of pain as you ... After that, a week later, we buried my daughter. There were 11 people who had been shot by the police at the time. They were all buried at 49 Guguletu Stadium. ... he was referring to the whole crowd or some people within the crowd. Mr Ketile ran inside. The group started dispersing - some people ran back towards Street 8. Other people ran ... MR SHANE: So you got shot by these, one of these white people. Is that correct? Everton, until the reached Zone 7 on foot because they were using shortcuts. And as I was alone at home I decided to sleep. As I was sleeping since the time he left it was about 7 o'clock, we slept with the children and his wife, at about 4 o'clock in the morning I heard a knock at my door and I ... That's right, thank you. I had some reservations about coming forward but I feel now that it's imperative for people to come forward, to get to the truth of what has happened in South Africa. The role of teachers in the time of the unrest, was very important. But before I go onto that, I would like ... Elizabeth, but up until now, I didn't see the child. I told these people that I wanted to see my son's child, but they didn't bring the child to me. ... when a Springbok Patrol vehicle passed that place and they could not continue with the robbery. My question to you Mr de Kock is whether you are aware that the first attempt to rob Coin Security took place approximately a day or two before the Carousel ... Similarly on the question of proportionality, the context must be considered, he submitted. In those days, Applicant argued, the mere suspicion that one was an informer attracted the most dire consequences, because people's lives and livelihood were at stake. An informer could thus not be ignored. Applicant was asked if he could distinguish a PAC member from an ANC member, and his response was that he could not. He concluded his testimony by stating that he only realises now that they were shooting at the wrong people, explaining that it was not easy to tell ANC persons apart from other ... REV XUNDU: Thank you Mam Qhomasi. You have your story here in this statement which is the same as what was said by other people so I am not going to bother you much by asking you to say it again. Except that I would like to confirm whether you were one of those people who were in that crowd and ... MR MATHEBULA: Yes, there were people in Compol who'd intercept the post. They would fetch the post at the post office. CHAIRPERSON: ...(start of tape) submissions and a ruling on the question relating to the disclosure of the names of certain people. I notice Mr Dreyer is not here but however this aspect does not really concern him, it's a point that was raised by Ms Monyane and it concerns obviously her and ... |